Look at Trump for example, his debate points were

"I'm gonna bring back Jobs,
I'm gonna do great,
You're Wrong,
I'm smart,
MAGA"

He still inspired people to vote for him

and its not all "They just hated Hillary more"
Cuz Trump also won in the Republican party

yeah, doesnt change the whole idea that debates require arguments... otherwise pure manipulative sophistry fluff

well i did bring arguments

you can't just discount me trolling on the side as me having no argument at all

dirtying the waters with trolling too tho

never said that... all i said was that i noticed you have a tendency to regress into trolling after your arguments start to fall apart

nah, you don't get to decide my arguments fall appart just because you don't agree with them

like today, you accused me of trolling right off the bat

My argument cant fall appart if my opening statement is "trolling"

lol okay ... that is what i have observed 😉

then you're wrong

mostly referring to actually the "you would force vaccinate other ppl against their will" comment you made earlier is when i realized that you like to regress into trolling

so it was fresh on my mind 😉

nah i was trolling when i said i'd strap them on the table personally :P

Since i support mandatory vaccines, i do technically wanna force vaccinate people against their will

but its been 30 minutes since you said you had to go, shouldn't we shelve this discussion for another time? 😦

okay... welll..... we have a physical removal plan for ppl who refuse to abide by the new NAP social contract 😉 i guess youre safe since youre on the other side of the planet tho lol

until the terrorists get me 😦

EU loves inviting them over

alrighty, dude. well gg heh

yeah, good talk 😉 take care

#walkaway is fake. Change my mind.

Beucase Trump is president?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So, heres a discussion I had before. Theres the new strain of rice, that can grow anywhere.

Even in salt water, should solve food supply shortages in areas closer to the coastal areas.

So my family has always been part of the anti GMO group.

So they are saying that this is bad news.

The only answers I am getting is stuff like "its unnatural" or that its "healthier" than the organic options.

Has it been tested/grown?

Supposedly.

But its been decades since GMOs are around, and I still dont think I got a straight answer as to its health effects.

And it felt like the anti gmo crowd were the first to cry foul of it.

That just speaks uninformed to me.

I think being uninform is okay, but the willingness to listen and accept the 'truth' is more important

I mean, its a dirty word as of now, but how much of that is from fearmongers, concerned citizens, or from actual results.

We've been genetically modifying our food for as long as we've been growing it. Doing it through artificial selection vs more modern means isn't what matters

It's the end result that does

They say its different

And that splicing is bad because its manmade and unnatural.

There's nothing really to argue against there.