Message from @Poptarts

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2018-07-08 22:04:07 UTC  

hey mate, i don't make the rules,

If debating was all about who presents the truest facts, the Right-wing would be ruling the world

2018-07-08 22:04:36 UTC  

If you present facts, but are a dick, people will still pick the other side, because they simply don't want to give you the win

2018-07-08 22:04:56 UTC  

Debating is as much a game of wits as it is about presenting truth

2018-07-08 22:05:12 UTC  

otherwise, all politicians would be scientists

2018-07-08 22:05:47 UTC  

sure, im not even gonna pretend that some of those tacitcs cannot work out in my favor too

2018-07-08 22:06:06 UTC  

oh they will, plenty of times

2018-07-08 22:06:35 UTC  

but still not even going to pretend like im debating with any sort of arguments.... cuz would just be manipulating ppl subtley in that case 😉

2018-07-08 22:06:42 UTC  

If you perform such acts poorly, the audience will realise you're talking shit, and they will side with the other side

2018-07-08 22:07:06 UTC  

welcome to debating

2018-07-08 22:07:58 UTC  

well Mike Cernovich is effective.... but he plays on THAT front of the battleline where it belongs (trolling, etc)

2018-07-08 22:08:45 UTC  

Look at Trump for example, his debate points were

"I'm gonna bring back Jobs,
I'm gonna do great,
You're Wrong,
I'm smart,
MAGA"

He still inspired people to vote for him

2018-07-08 22:09:25 UTC  

and its not all "They just hated Hillary more"
Cuz Trump also won in the Republican party

2018-07-08 22:10:15 UTC  

yeah, doesnt change the whole idea that debates require arguments... otherwise pure manipulative sophistry fluff

2018-07-08 22:10:23 UTC  

well i did bring arguments

2018-07-08 22:10:32 UTC  

you can't just discount me trolling on the side as me having no argument at all

2018-07-08 22:10:34 UTC  

dirtying the waters with trolling too tho

2018-07-08 22:11:17 UTC  

never said that... all i said was that i noticed you have a tendency to regress into trolling after your arguments start to fall apart

2018-07-08 22:11:41 UTC  

nah, you don't get to decide my arguments fall appart just because you don't agree with them

2018-07-08 22:11:55 UTC  

like today, you accused me of trolling right off the bat

2018-07-08 22:12:16 UTC  

My argument cant fall appart if my opening statement is "trolling"

2018-07-08 22:12:25 UTC  

lol okay ... that is what i have observed 😉

2018-07-08 22:12:42 UTC  

then you're wrong

2018-07-08 22:13:17 UTC  

mostly referring to actually the "you would force vaccinate other ppl against their will" comment you made earlier is when i realized that you like to regress into trolling

2018-07-08 22:13:37 UTC  

so it was fresh on my mind 😉

2018-07-08 22:14:00 UTC  

nah i was trolling when i said i'd strap them on the table personally :P

Since i support mandatory vaccines, i do technically wanna force vaccinate people against their will

2018-07-08 22:14:42 UTC  

but its been 30 minutes since you said you had to go, shouldn't we shelve this discussion for another time? 😦

2018-07-08 22:15:56 UTC  

okay... welll..... we have a physical removal plan for ppl who refuse to abide by the new NAP social contract 😉 i guess youre safe since youre on the other side of the planet tho lol

2018-07-08 22:16:22 UTC  

until the terrorists get me 😦

2018-07-08 22:16:38 UTC  

EU loves inviting them over

2018-07-08 22:18:26 UTC  

alrighty, dude. well gg heh

2018-07-08 22:18:37 UTC  

yeah, good talk 😉 take care

2018-07-09 00:11:39 UTC  

#walkaway is fake. Change my mind.

2018-07-09 02:09:07 UTC  

Beucase Trump is president?

2018-07-09 02:09:12 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-07-09 02:23:41 UTC  

So, heres a discussion I had before. Theres the new strain of rice, that can grow anywhere.

2018-07-09 02:24:03 UTC  

Even in salt water, should solve food supply shortages in areas closer to the coastal areas.

2018-07-09 02:24:19 UTC  

So my family has always been part of the anti GMO group.

2018-07-09 02:24:34 UTC  

So they are saying that this is bad news.

2018-07-09 02:25:11 UTC  

The only answers I am getting is stuff like "its unnatural" or that its "healthier" than the organic options.

2018-07-09 02:26:14 UTC  

Has it been tested/grown?

2018-07-09 02:26:23 UTC  

Supposedly.