And that splicing is bad because its manmade and unnatural.

There's nothing really to argue against there.

Lots of stuff is unnatural. Doesn't mean it's bad.

Now, the legal practices behind GMOs are something to complain about

Isn't curare natural?

Thats my only issue with it

Mosanto's treatment of farmers does not help with the GMO situation

There's also the possibility of weaponizing GMO bacteria/parasites

I wouldn't go so far as saying that we GMO our food since we've been growing it, rather we selectively breed most of them

All that matters is that the food should go to the people who will need it most. Prompt help will be more useful than delayed help.

But the problem with GMO is that we are not sure of it's long term effects to the ecology and to the human body

SO heres the thing.

I think that's reasons for most people to distrust GMO

THe people who are starving now. Which will help them live longer.

Some food? Or something that keeps them alive longer but will kill them assuming GMOs do that.

Its counting on the GMOs keeping them alive long enough for a better alternative to come along.

Or else there will be no one to help when that alternative comes about

True, I think it's okay to grow it first, based on the benefits that it helps people, until we have a better alternative

But I'm worried for the future where we do have a GMO, but it's long term effect might be hard to reverse or even irreversible

There are a actually facilities that archive seeds of all kind in preparation for emergencies.

The only thing I can see that is ireversible by then, would be reliance on it.

Imagine if all GMOs died, youd have alot of people starving if they fall back to previous seed strains.

Like currently?

Yea

Exactly, we have plants that end up getting wiped out by disease.

Since all of them are the same.

Yeah, biodiversity is important here for sure.

Thats why I said, overreliance is the issue here.

Learn from the Irish

We don't want to replace every crop with one super-rice

You see people talking about cocoa possibly going extinct... There's probably a lot of money for whoever can figure out a way to make that grow in new environments

there is NO consensus about GMO health safety

Because they're NOT necessarily safe. You're changing the organism's DNA to make it a new one. So that means you COULD make something poisonous, but that doesn't mean changing corn to have bigger kernels is going to necessarily be unsafe if that's all that is changed.

DNA is a highly complex set of code, and sometimes things are linked in ways we previously didn't understand. That means we should be careful moving forward and not put all our eggs in one basket. It doesn't mean avoiding all change.

They're changing the genes in the corn to turn the freaking frogs gay!!

Isn't kermit gay?

Ok, but really on some level he was right. But the chemicals are actually turning frogs trans.

ya, its the atrazine and other indocrine disruptors and estrogen mimickers

Sargon did a hilarious video on the "Gay Frog Holocaust" or something liek that

"We've been genetically modifying our food for as long as we've been growing it." but this is just plain untrue and is a common talking point sowed by slick snake oil salesmen 😉

GMO are fundamentally different than natural plant hybridization