Message from @Lucian
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Its counting on the GMOs keeping them alive long enough for a better alternative to come along.
Or else there will be no one to help when that alternative comes about
True, I think it's okay to grow it first, based on the benefits that it helps people, until we have a better alternative
But I'm worried for the future where we do have a GMO, but it's long term effect might be hard to reverse or even irreversible
There are a actually facilities that archive seeds of all kind in preparation for emergencies.
The only thing I can see that is ireversible by then, would be reliance on it.
Imagine if all GMOs died, youd have alot of people starving if they fall back to previous seed strains.
Like currently?
Yea
Exactly, we have plants that end up getting wiped out by disease.
Since all of them are the same.
Yeah, biodiversity is important here for sure.
Thats why I said, overreliance is the issue here.
Learn from the Irish
We don't want to replace every crop with one super-rice
You see people talking about cocoa possibly going extinct... There's probably a lot of money for whoever can figure out a way to make that grow in new environments
there is NO consensus about GMO health safety
Because they're NOT necessarily safe. You're changing the organism's DNA to make it a new one. So that means you COULD make something poisonous, but that doesn't mean changing corn to have bigger kernels is going to necessarily be unsafe if that's all that is changed.
DNA is a highly complex set of code, and sometimes things are linked in ways we previously didn't understand. That means we should be careful moving forward and not put all our eggs in one basket. It doesn't mean avoiding all change.
They're changing the genes in the corn to turn the freaking frogs gay!!
Ok, but really on some level he was right. But the chemicals are actually turning frogs trans.
ya, its the atrazine and other indocrine disruptors and estrogen mimickers
Sargon did a hilarious video on the "Gay Frog Holocaust" or something liek that
"We've been genetically modifying our food for as long as we've been growing it." but this is just plain untrue and is a common talking point sowed by slick snake oil salesmen 😉
GMO are fundamentally different than natural plant hybridization
they are *trans*-genic
also, they are *patented* as well
so they are *novel* inventions
tell me..... how do you "breed" a pig with an elephant?
or a spider with a goat?
Impossibruu
or a jellyfish with a feline .... or a cow with a pig ..... or a mold with a plant ... *or a human with an animal*.... see this is fundamentally different science
welll.... trick question 😉
the answer is GMOs thru genetic engineering as it is properly known
Then that's not whatever it originally is
Well that's sort of the point
thats what it means now .... legally speaking, so all that really matters. they are not the same things as DOGS as is a common and erroneous talking point
dogs are not GMOs
Similar to replacing wood on a ship, at what point does a cow becomes non cow if you keep replacing it's DNA
there are two technical requirements as for as i understand for something to be considered a GMO *legally speaking* ..... 1) trans-genic 2) patented