Message from @Schedrevka

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2018-07-09 02:46:53 UTC  

THe people who are starving now. Which will help them live longer.

2018-07-09 02:47:13 UTC  

Some food? Or something that keeps them alive longer but will kill them assuming GMOs do that.

2018-07-09 02:47:37 UTC  

Its counting on the GMOs keeping them alive long enough for a better alternative to come along.

2018-07-09 02:47:57 UTC  

Or else there will be no one to help when that alternative comes about

2018-07-09 02:48:49 UTC  

True, I think it's okay to grow it first, based on the benefits that it helps people, until we have a better alternative

2018-07-09 02:49:36 UTC  

But I'm worried for the future where we do have a GMO, but it's long term effect might be hard to reverse or even irreversible

2018-07-09 02:53:00 UTC  

There are a actually facilities that archive seeds of all kind in preparation for emergencies.

2018-07-09 02:53:03 UTC  

The only thing I can see that is ireversible by then, would be reliance on it.

2018-07-09 02:53:37 UTC  

Imagine if all GMOs died, youd have alot of people starving if they fall back to previous seed strains.

2018-07-09 02:54:08 UTC  

Like currently?

2018-07-09 02:54:16 UTC  

Yea

2018-07-09 02:54:29 UTC  

Exactly, we have plants that end up getting wiped out by disease.

2018-07-09 02:54:36 UTC  

Since all of them are the same.

2018-07-09 02:54:53 UTC  

Yeah, biodiversity is important here for sure.

2018-07-09 02:54:58 UTC  

Thats why I said, overreliance is the issue here.

2018-07-09 02:55:06 UTC  

Learn from the Irish

2018-07-09 02:55:09 UTC  

We don't want to replace every crop with one super-rice

2018-07-09 02:56:11 UTC  

You see people talking about cocoa possibly going extinct... There's probably a lot of money for whoever can figure out a way to make that grow in new environments

2018-07-09 03:01:24 UTC  

there is NO consensus about GMO health safety

2018-07-09 03:03:21 UTC  

Because they're NOT necessarily safe. You're changing the organism's DNA to make it a new one. So that means you COULD make something poisonous, but that doesn't mean changing corn to have bigger kernels is going to necessarily be unsafe if that's all that is changed.

2018-07-09 03:04:21 UTC  

DNA is a highly complex set of code, and sometimes things are linked in ways we previously didn't understand. That means we should be careful moving forward and not put all our eggs in one basket. It doesn't mean avoiding all change.

2018-07-09 03:04:40 UTC  

They're changing the genes in the corn to turn the freaking frogs gay!!

2018-07-09 03:05:02 UTC  

Isn't kermit gay?

2018-07-09 03:05:48 UTC  

Ok, but really on some level he was right. But the chemicals are actually turning frogs trans.

2018-07-09 03:07:36 UTC  

ya, its the atrazine and other indocrine disruptors and estrogen mimickers

2018-07-09 03:08:03 UTC  

Sargon did a hilarious video on the "Gay Frog Holocaust" or something liek that

2018-07-09 03:09:05 UTC  

"We've been genetically modifying our food for as long as we've been growing it." but this is just plain untrue and is a common talking point sowed by slick snake oil salesmen 😉

2018-07-09 03:09:32 UTC  

GMO are fundamentally different than natural plant hybridization

2018-07-09 03:09:47 UTC  

they are *trans*-genic

2018-07-09 03:10:03 UTC  

also, they are *patented* as well

2018-07-09 03:10:14 UTC  

so they are *novel* inventions

2018-07-09 03:10:59 UTC  

tell me..... how do you "breed" a pig with an elephant?

2018-07-09 03:11:09 UTC  

or a spider with a goat?

2018-07-09 03:12:00 UTC  

Impossibruu

2018-07-09 03:12:06 UTC  

or a jellyfish with a feline .... or a cow with a pig ..... or a mold with a plant ... *or a human with an animal*.... see this is fundamentally different science

2018-07-09 03:12:15 UTC  

welll.... trick question 😉

2018-07-09 03:12:21 UTC  

the answer is GMOs thru genetic engineering as it is properly known

2018-07-09 03:12:42 UTC  

Then that's not whatever it originally is

2018-07-09 03:12:51 UTC  

Well that's sort of the point

2018-07-09 03:13:27 UTC  

thats what it means now .... legally speaking, so all that really matters. they are not the same things as DOGS as is a common and erroneous talking point

2018-07-09 03:13:33 UTC  

dogs are not GMOs