Message from @pratel

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2018-07-16 22:26:17 UTC  

That's what a hypothetical civil war would probably look like, TBH

2018-07-16 22:26:25 UTC  

and at that point, you'd better hope the state still has a shred of humanity left

2018-07-16 22:26:31 UTC  

Unless something cleaved people apart politically in clean lines beforehand.

2018-07-16 22:27:10 UTC  

I think at that point, we can assume the breakdown of order means the destruction of just about everything and extreme bloodshed.

2018-07-16 22:27:26 UTC  

nah, an American Civil war will not end in extreme bloodshed

2018-07-16 22:27:26 UTC  

The hypothetical civil war scenario only makes sense with very widespread popular backing.

2018-07-16 22:28:07 UTC  

Honestly, it's so hard to figure out how a new American civil war would end, it's probably better not to speculate.

The most important factors are the kinds of factors that are hard to predict.

2018-07-16 22:29:23 UTC  

It's also the kind of thing that's going to get everyone on here put on a watchlist. Care to change topic?

2018-07-16 22:29:51 UTC  

an american civil war will end with a very 1 sided massacre,

considering the people who want to abolish guns, are against

-The Police
-The Military
-The NRA
-The people who like guns
-The State

And the ones who don't wanna abolish guns favor the current ruling party 😄

2018-07-16 22:30:33 UTC  

you're not gonna be put on a watchlist for speculating civil war,

We're not plotting to overthrow the government, in fact,

I for one support the current US government 😄

2018-07-16 22:31:55 UTC  

Still, no one else is in awe that this has worked and more or less stayed together at all?

2018-07-16 22:32:31 UTC  

That's what people *say* but so much is dependent on how it starts.

Did the state cleave cleanly? Are there divisions within states? Is it a set of guerilla actions? Is it more of an open rebellion? Is the rebellion contained to one region? Who is most directly opposing the government? Where is the foreign support?

all these questions can dramatically change the outcome.

One thing that can be said, is that if the US descends into a true civil war, everyone (and I mean everyone, including outside the US) loses. It's an outcome better avoided IMO.

2018-07-16 22:33:14 UTC  

I actually am not,

I had to do school projects, where 8 people have to make a product, and none of us know what we're doing, yet the project was completed succesfully


Reality is pretty much the same on a larger scale :D

A bunch of idiots being forced to work together to finish something favorably

2018-07-16 22:33:19 UTC  

You would think. But human society has a weird way of finding stable regions and holding together.

Humans were built, in some sense, to create societies of one form or another.

2018-07-16 22:33:50 UTC  

If the system wasn't somewhat stable, it would collapse into something stable (barring world-ending or species-ending events)

2018-07-16 22:34:41 UTC  

like i said, an american civil war will end very fast and quickly,

Because 1 side is against using guns and against the state
and the other side is for guns and is with the state

The non-gun side will get steamrolled

2018-07-16 22:35:02 UTC  

IDK. I think you can get armed pretty quick if given support.

2018-07-16 22:35:12 UTC  

not to mention 95% don't even want a civil war

2018-07-16 22:35:21 UTC  

^ That's the big thing.

2018-07-16 22:35:39 UTC  

It feels like there's alot of pushing for something like that, but everyone knows that everyone loses.

2018-07-16 22:35:45 UTC  

It's brinksmanship at it's core.

2018-07-16 22:35:56 UTC  

having a gun doesn't make you an expert,

A guy with a machine gun and doesn't even know how to arm the gun (take safety off etc) isn't gonna put up much of a fight against a person that actually knows how to use a pistol

2018-07-16 22:36:24 UTC  

also the faction "pushing" for it, is the same faction that said hillary had a 95% chance to win the election

2018-07-16 22:37:40 UTC  

I wonder if a second "civil war" would be much like our second "great depression".

2018-07-16 22:38:37 UTC  

in name prolly, many people will GET depressed 😉

economy might not feel much because you'll flush california mighty-clean

2018-07-16 22:38:58 UTC  

I think Tim Pools' video on the possibility was hinting it would probably be more like the bombings of the 70s.

That's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's different than what most people would consider a "civil war"

2018-07-16 22:39:26 UTC  

If that's what you mean, I think I could agree that it would be alot like our second "great depression" in that it's alot of hyperbole.

2018-07-16 22:40:32 UTC  

a civil war would require two factions to clash

Otherwise its just terrorism

2018-07-16 22:40:47 UTC  

@Dr.Wol you don't understand, 2008 has been called "the second great depression" by some

2018-07-16 22:41:14 UTC  

I know, because the economy dropped by what was it? 3%?

Wasn't the 1933 great depression like 20%?

2018-07-16 22:42:21 UTC  

To which I'm just like "either the great depression was a lot more laxed than I thought, or we are so fucking pathetically cosy that having to lease a car rather than own it and not being able to buy a new house every year is "the second worse thing in the world"'

2018-07-16 22:42:40 UTC  

In history*

2018-07-16 22:42:44 UTC  

I think its the fact that media needs to keep people hooked

2018-07-16 22:42:56 UTC  

I mean, if Trump is the new Hitler
and America is a tyrannical state now

2018-07-16 22:43:08 UTC  

then dafuq kind of lies have my history books been telling me about the German Reich? 😄

2018-07-16 22:43:21 UTC  

Ikr

2018-07-16 22:43:57 UTC  

Although given how much the EU is controlled by Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 4th Reich rise up out of it as it starts to collapse

2018-07-16 22:44:22 UTC  

Germany be like "we tried to do it the sneaky buddy buddy way, but you.forced our hand"

2018-07-16 22:44:27 UTC  

it popped up like 20 years ago, don't you know?

2018-07-16 22:44:45 UTC  

Whatever number they are on.

2018-07-16 22:44:51 UTC  

lolwat, the bot blocked me for writing too much in this channel 😄