Figured this was a better place

Then you also need to get rid of the benefits a king would get. Some are in it for the power and nothing else.

removing a baby from your body is different from shooting someone in the head

providing welfare to a person is different from forcing a person to provide their being to another

the blood of a woman is not the same as handing someone a sandwich

i dont like abortion and I dont think it should be used as contraception

but Im more worried about a government that can mandate you provide your body to another

Hi there Tim! Been watching here and there for a while, and I have a thesis I would like torn to the ground if at all possible.

It's presented under the name CanadianDaves on your Trump of Brazil assassination attempt vid.

Hit me up wherever if you find a ten foot pole!

Clinton had a good line on abortion: "safe, legal, and rare"

I mean slick willy not the hilldawg

Problem is, is that the democrats have completely forgotten about the "rare" part.

In fact their antics in protests and media seem to be advocating more abortions, not less. People wearing "ask me about my abortion" shirts is retarded. It's self-defeating.

They ought to be using their donation money to fund charities that give out free contraceptives instead of using the money to make abortions seem cool.

And policy wise I think it's better to promote policies that help make some abortions unnecessary. Try to determine the exact reason why women choose abortion, and then develop policies that would minimize that motivation.

Hook-up culture and the death of marriage mean that a lot of women who would choose abortion would otherwise end up struggling single moms. I have to be honest and say that I haven't checked the stats but I would hazard a guess that married couples rarely have abortions.

People are worried about roe v wade being thrown out because of cases of the mothers life in danger and rape but the current speaker of the house and the former republican presidential contender of 2012 both have made it clear that they support abortion in extreme cases.

Politically it's not a hill worth dying on. Wish someone would tell Shapiro and the paleocons though.

What do you mean?

@Timcast from a logical perspective the government would not be mandating the mom provide he body rather mandating the protection of the life of the child. For example if the child could be removed from the body in a way that the child could live in a machine and become healthy still, that sounds like it is still pro-life to me.

For abortion the law would have to be enforced as murder, and murder is only acceptable under extreme cases of self defense.

I do see where you are coming from though and I think your position is respectable.

While the pro-choice/pro-life split is roughly 50/50, less than half on the pro-life side actually want legislation against it. It's not something that mobilizes many people on the right. Most Americans just don't care that much.

Those that are incredibly energized by the pro-life debate are dying of old age.

I'm not so sure

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235445/abortion-attitudes-remain-closely-divided.aspx

Then again trusting polls might not be wise.

As a centrist pro-life is one of my socialy right positions and my experience with those in college many seem to think it's a rather important issue. Additionally looking at the Kavanaugh bashing much of it is motivated by roe v wade and right now people talk about roe v wade a lot

I just don't think it's a winning issue for republicans. They're better off sticking to immigration, the economy, and gun rights. Those motivate people more.

Polls can be helpful they just aren't the end all be all

Freedom of speech too

Pro life can be a winning issue but I agree it is not number 1 priority

While I agree that's crucial to victory in November and in the future, not many voters understand that it's even under threat.

Like at the recent senate hearing with Twitter and Facebook, freedom of speech was barely mentioned.

It was mostly about muh russia.

I think it is more of a motivator for the youngest base

There is a decent demographic but it won't be as apparent yet

Right now I am a single issue voter, and that is whoever is most likely to clean up this God awful social security mess or at least not pass on the bill to me and my kids since I am 21

I work i use my time and my energy to produce I pour my life into increasing my value and working for my employer time i can and never will get back and then after i have given part of my life a man from Washington aims a gun at me and demands I give part of my life to another only I never got the joy of fucking someone before hand I only have the pain of caring for another against my will @Timcast

Even though i give 10% of all that I make to charity and some months more than that I am still forced to give more and I will never see a return on the money I give

Complaining about taxes because of threat of a gun isn't a great argument

We choose to live in a place with taxes we are agreeing to pay those taxes