Message from Faticati in Subverse #debate

2018-09-08 15:30:07 UTC  

Course new deal somewhat goes along with that logic

2018-09-08 15:31:04 UTC  

There was some good that came out of that, but an overreaching president is bad for the long run

2018-09-08 15:31:35 UTC  

Course we rarely talk about Congress decades ago

2018-09-08 15:32:02 UTC  

The ones typically adding on to the budget and passing these omnibus bills

2018-09-08 15:32:32 UTC  

Both Democrats and Republicans sign off on all these wasteful programs

2018-09-08 15:33:26 UTC  

Asking for taxes to be spent effeceintly and carefully is definitely a high priority

2018-09-08 15:34:43 UTC  

Especially something that has to be considered about social programs is that we have to deal with the debt first

2018-09-08 15:48:27 UTC  

Almost like allowing politicians to steal people’s money and give it to others in exchange for votes is bad

2018-09-08 15:57:30 UTC  

And dont get me started on copyright law

2018-09-08 17:39:08 UTC  

Just had an interesting conversation with a factory owner I know.

2018-09-08 17:39:37 UTC  

It seems most of the upper middle class support Trump

2018-09-08 17:40:39 UTC  

He had a rather interesting success story about how he started off as a car cleaner man

2018-09-08 17:40:48 UTC  

The government shouldn’t regulate shit

2018-09-08 17:41:15 UTC  

The market can and will remove bad actors if they are not propped up by the government

2018-09-08 17:43:11 UTC  

Lets say copyright didn’t exist that first man movie comes out somebody films and cuts in the flag planting and bam the two products can sell on their own merits and the studio still has the first to market advantage which should be the only advantage

2018-09-08 17:43:52 UTC  

From what he told me, a lot of people like him find the Republican Party

2018-09-08 17:44:04 UTC  


2018-09-08 17:44:42 UTC  

He talked about it like it was an investment, rather intriguing

2018-09-08 17:45:28 UTC  

Everything is an investment of time and assets

2018-09-08 17:48:52 UTC  

I certainly don’t agree with corporate donations but speaking with him, brought me the realisation that a lot of these people were once at the bottom of society and they have grown accustomed to their newfound positions.

2018-09-08 17:54:10 UTC  

Yeah like hard work pays off

2018-09-08 18:09:21 UTC  

The upper middle class are what the left would call "class traitors"

2018-09-08 18:15:10 UTC  

I dont find my meaning in a class structure I am an individual and wish to be treated as such

2018-09-08 18:16:20 UTC  

If others do not wish to be treated as individuals thats fine but they are not gonna rope me into their bs

2018-09-08 18:26:24 UTC  

Well actually know that I think about it. Would a factory owner be upper middle class, or lower upper class

2018-09-08 18:26:33 UTC  

God... questions

2018-09-08 18:34:18 UTC  

Depends on his income

2018-09-08 18:37:03 UTC  

Well he has 125 employees

2018-09-08 18:37:22 UTC  

So must be pretty high but not super high

2018-09-08 18:41:32 UTC  

Upper middle makes more sense

2018-09-08 18:42:02 UTC  

Upper class generally are at the point where their wealth can sustain them without needing to work at all

2018-09-08 18:42:10 UTC  

Yah he’s not the .01%

2018-09-08 18:42:28 UTC  

But then wouldn’t doctors not count as upper middle class

2018-09-08 18:42:35 UTC  

Cuz they need to work

2018-09-08 18:42:53 UTC  

They have to invest and manage their money @Blackhawk342

2018-09-08 18:42:59 UTC  

Depends how much they make

2018-09-08 18:43:14 UTC  

And yes they do, but there are large investment firms for a reason

2018-09-08 18:43:27 UTC  


2018-09-08 18:43:37 UTC  

Doctors still have to work which would make them lower upper class

2018-09-08 18:44:19 UTC  

Most of the extreme upper class still work

2018-09-08 18:44:19 UTC  

Because while they could quit and be ok financially, their passive wealth generation isnt at the point where it can replace their career