I'm not asking you to

Course new deal somewhat goes along with that logic

There was some good that came out of that, but an overreaching president is bad for the long run

Course we rarely talk about Congress decades ago

The ones typically adding on to the budget and passing these omnibus bills

Both Democrats and Republicans sign off on all these wasteful programs

Asking for taxes to be spent effeceintly and carefully is definitely a high priority

Especially something that has to be considered about social programs is that we have to deal with the debt first

Almost like allowing politicians to steal people’s money and give it to others in exchange for votes is bad

And dont get me started on copyright law

Just had an interesting conversation with a factory owner I know.

It seems most of the upper middle class support Trump

He had a rather interesting success story about how he started off as a car cleaner man

The government shouldn’t regulate shit

The market can and will remove bad actors if they are not propped up by the government

Lets say copyright didn’t exist that first man movie comes out somebody films and cuts in the flag planting and bam the two products can sell on their own merits and the studio still has the first to market advantage which should be the only advantage

From what he told me, a lot of people like him find the Republican Party

*fund

He talked about it like it was an investment, rather intriguing

Everything is an investment of time and assets

I certainly don’t agree with corporate donations but speaking with him, brought me the realisation that a lot of these people were once at the bottom of society and they have grown accustomed to their newfound positions.

Yeah like hard work pays off

The upper middle class are what the left would call "class traitors"

I dont find my meaning in a class structure I am an individual and wish to be treated as such

If others do not wish to be treated as individuals thats fine but they are not gonna rope me into their bs

Well actually know that I think about it. Would a factory owner be upper middle class, or lower upper class

God... questions

Depends on his income

Well he has 125 employees

So must be pretty high but not super high

Upper middle makes more sense

Upper class generally are at the point where their wealth can sustain them without needing to work at all

Yah he’s not the .01%

But then wouldn’t doctors not count as upper middle class

Cuz they need to work

They have to invest and manage their money @Blackhawk342

Depends how much they make

And yes they do, but there are large investment firms for a reason

Yep

Doctors still have to work which would make them lower upper class

Most of the extreme upper class still work