We choose to live in a place with taxes we are agreeing to pay those taxes

The better argument is how much taxes and fighting the bad spending

I am fighting bad spending

Im ok paying for things that I use

Better yet is arguing for most social programs to be state or local

Federal government is only responsible for international issues like military and diplomacy

Im saying social programs are an infringement of individual liberties telling a mother & father to care for the kid they made by willfully fucking is just telling people to not be irresponsible leeches

Social programs are fine but if we had them on a state level at least we could choose which ones we want by leaving to another state

And if there is misuse of funds the people responsible aren't a thousand miles away

I disagree

I didn’t choose to be born in NJ and frankly I don’t wanna pay for someone else its unconstitutional

You choose to stay there

Doesn’t change the constitution

What part of the Constitution?

And I’m referring to the preamble

It makes disgusting things like income tax theoretically impossible

But power corrupts

I disagree that income tax should be impossible under the preamble, however there was a big question of direct tax amongst the founding fathers

It was s controversial issue early on and had not been used for a quite some time after the Constitution

Fdr fucked my country up bad I want the old deal back

The one where hard work and intelligence is rewarded and everything else is allowed to take its natural course

He did set some dangerous precedents

If I choose to lay my life down and help the downtrodden that is my decision but if I am expected to sacrifice my intellect and body for the good of another they can take them both and simply consume my rotting corpse because i will die before being a slave to any man

In response to what particular scenario?

40% taxes things like that

You expect me to live under the assumption only 60% of the fruits of my labor are mine?

All I want is to live and die by my own will and capacity

If the military is ok with working Ill pay them if the cops will work ill pay them if the government wants to make roads ill pay for that ill even pay judges and other elected officials but im not gonna pay someone to do nothing sorry

I'm not asking you to

Course new deal somewhat goes along with that logic

There was some good that came out of that, but an overreaching president is bad for the long run

Course we rarely talk about Congress decades ago

The ones typically adding on to the budget and passing these omnibus bills

Both Democrats and Republicans sign off on all these wasteful programs

Asking for taxes to be spent effeceintly and carefully is definitely a high priority

Especially something that has to be considered about social programs is that we have to deal with the debt first

Almost like allowing politicians to steal people’s money and give it to others in exchange for votes is bad

And dont get me started on copyright law

Just had an interesting conversation with a factory owner I know.

It seems most of the upper middle class support Trump

He had a rather interesting success story about how he started off as a car cleaner man