Message from @Faticati

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2018-09-09 03:35:53 UTC  

A State is a Nation.

2018-09-09 03:36:12 UTC  

In our current incarnation, the United States is supposed to be 50 nations operating in unison.

2018-09-09 03:36:44 UTC  

This is the entire point of a Federation, from which we get our Federal Government

2018-09-09 03:36:56 UTC  

so they should even have a type of sovereignty?

2018-09-09 03:37:19 UTC  

I mean, we've got 51 constitutions within the Nation as we refer to it.

2018-09-09 03:37:52 UTC  

Each State has it's own Constitution.

2018-09-09 03:37:57 UTC  

this makes washington dc seem even more schizophrenic

2018-09-09 03:38:05 UTC  

It absolutely is.

2018-09-09 03:38:20 UTC  

Congress's job is to balance the budget.

2018-09-09 03:38:30 UTC  

The senate's job is oversight

2018-09-09 03:39:12 UTC  

The Executive Branch's job is to manage negotiations overseas and between states

2018-09-09 03:39:33 UTC  

The Supreme Court's job is to sort out disagreements on the word of law.

2018-09-09 03:39:58 UTC  

It's all spelled out in the Constitution.

2018-09-09 03:40:46 UTC  

It's definitely worth reading more than just the amendments in the Constitution.

2018-09-09 03:42:29 UTC  

``Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
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2018-09-09 03:43:00 UTC  

``To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.``

2018-09-09 03:47:00 UTC  

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When you combine that with the 10th amendment...
``Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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2018-09-09 03:47:32 UTC  

You can really start to see where shit went wrong.

2018-09-09 03:49:10 UTC  

lol yeah

2018-09-09 03:49:46 UTC  

And it's worth considering that the Amendments were written AFTER the document was produced. Meaning, their purpose is to clarify the intent.

2018-09-09 15:34:32 UTC  

@RyeNorth if you are a dude the birth defects thing doesn’t apply

2018-09-09 15:41:49 UTC  

So the state of California is saying that women just shouldn't work some jobs?

2018-09-09 17:01:46 UTC  

What is your favorite speeches guys? one of mine is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzRa7HWVqs

2018-09-09 17:02:20 UTC  

Nigel Farage is great at speaches

2018-09-09 18:57:12 UTC  

Not to get too cliche but it has to be this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAd1WJ9gXo0

2018-09-09 19:39:37 UTC  

Can't get behind that one. I don't care what music you put behind it.

2018-09-10 01:22:44 UTC  
2018-09-10 08:48:59 UTC  

@Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys This is my favourite, though the Nigel Farage one was hilarious. https://youtu.be/vFcn775CqAg

2018-09-10 18:33:36 UTC  

I always found Chaplin's speech there a little sentimental and maudlin. He sseems to assume people with power normally are just good people and if we would all just get along we'd all have a better world. However, it should be obvious from history, any point including today, that people DO NOT automatically just try to get along, and leaders usually go after power.

2018-09-10 19:28:50 UTC  

Generally humans are communal and empathic though, generally we are good people. The reason we dispute is mainly because disagreements turn into fights for survival and through co-operation we can humanise and work with those we disagree with, and educate ourselves on things we don't understand. He's speaking out against bias and selfishness in the name of collaboration and rationality. I find this message still applicable today. We won't move forward until the left *and* the right realise the opponents aren't bad people, they just have different understandings, priorities and experiences that shape their outlook differently- and although we should be sceptical and wary, generally people want what they believe is best for society

2018-09-10 19:29:52 UTC  

there was that talk I recall cant recall who did it

2018-09-10 19:30:14 UTC  

"Generally humans are communal and empathic though, generally we are good people." -- and I just generally do not believe this is true of human beings, or ever has been. I used to. I don't anymore.

2018-09-10 19:30:31 UTC  

But I member that they said that intelligence can be narrowed down to someones implicit capability to overcome instinct to work for the betterment of society.

2018-09-10 19:30:41 UTC  

Well, what they perceive as such.

2018-09-10 19:31:00 UTC  

Instinct tells you to react with hostility towards something different or unfamiliar

2018-09-10 19:31:27 UTC  

An "intelligent" person will observe from a distance, or find a way to see if its a threat

2018-09-10 19:31:28 UTC  

YEah I think people are naturally rotton and will naturally be rotton if they aren't taught better. They aren't naturally good. That's sort of rooted in philoso9phers like Rousseu and I just don't see humans that way anymore.

2018-09-10 19:31:51 UTC  

Then again, theres also pathological altruism

2018-09-10 19:32:12 UTC  

Sociopathy and narcissism--the modern way of saying "evil" I think--is normal in humans.

2018-09-10 19:32:51 UTC  

We're not naturally "good" at all. And as a people we're now so poorly educated we're lost. We have no metaphysical certainties, and a civilization that lacks those will be rolled over by one that has some.