Bow to your King who bows to the Pope who bows to God

during this AMERICAN dream thing europe was post feudal

It was still hierarchical

It was still dealing with the effects

fucking everything is hierarchical

America was a clean slate

heirarchy does not prevent socioechonomic migration, it defines it

Hell, Europe still has a bunch of weird shit that is a holdover from the old regimes

by the time of the industrial revolution a stratified heirarchy of wealth and power already existed in the united states

Yeah, but what I'm saying is America was about freedom and making your own way. Europe was about loyalty to the state and communal/authoritarian values

Mind you, now we've got the 'States slowly undermining their core values, one by one

Even if it did that through a capitalist economy

sure there was more self centeredness in american culture relitive to european culture so you have a point there

but i dont think that stifled entrepenuership as much as the myth makes it out to be

just look at firearms development in europe and how many names pop up over its history that wernt established manufacturers to begin with

theres also a myth that everyone who came to america was successful even though we know most europeans who migrated here in the 19th century went back home just as poor

the majority had no success in the united states and those we have now still were the exceptions to the rules or the wealthy

i mean, firearms development was a real easy market in most of europe for most of european history

I mean tbf I have a skewed view on American prosperity, the Irish were slaves and now we're most of Boston lmao

there was always a pair of countries looking for weapons to kill each-other

OMG EUROPE LEGITIMATELY BEGGED TO BE FUCKED AND NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO RUIN THE INTERNET FOR EVERYONE

They must all be bottoms

its too late

its already been done

prepare your anus

they are going in dry

It's not. It's now in the hands of the government reps each country has in the EU that actually choose what laws go in to place. We can bitch at our government to slap it down but if we couldn't get the people we vote for to side with us then we aren't going to get the rep to listen. It was nice while it lasted.

The EU is seriously losing power and influence though.

Are they? We (UK) haven't left yet. They own Greece, they all just voted to threaten Hungary with sanctions, nobody seem to make a peep about forming an EU army. Please show me where they are losing power.

YEah, in a big way they are. Euroskeptic politicians have been elected in droves in multiple countries including Italy, France, Germany, UK, and much of Eastern Europe. Both in national elections and in EU elections, Euroskeptics are gaining power very steadily!

A guy I really like following on this is Dr. Steve Turley, he documents a ton of it with good social science data.

And Merkel--the figurehead that really keeps the EU what it is, is in huge trouble:

I recommend Turley's channel in a big way.

I think @Timcast would especially appreciate Steve Turley, he's got info no one else has got, and he's a very respectable academic.

I can't past a link for some reason but look for "Steve Turley Merkel's Gov't On Bring As Germans Reject Open Borders"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcR9TSCzSbI

There it went. Watch that, look at his other videos too. EU/Globalists are in trouble in Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Italy, Germany, Sweden (YES SWEDEN!) and other countries.

yeah, guy from poland in here earlier talking about it, and sweden.

clearly Hungary hasn't made the EU happy, Italy has had problems for a long time, so only a matter of time

didn't know about Germany having a problem but not surprised

UK is clearly waking up, double that with Article 11 and 13. and Trump is doing nothing to help