Message from RyeNorth in Subverse #debate


2018-09-28 14:39:06 UTC  

As kavanaugh pointed out, she asked for anonymity.

2018-09-28 14:40:59 UTC  

It was a political operation that exposed her.

2018-09-28 14:41:26 UTC  

She was lawyering up in august almost a month before the allegation came forward

2018-09-28 14:41:40 UTC  

This isn’t a trial this is a witch hunt

2018-09-28 14:42:21 UTC  

An anonymous accusation would have been worse

2018-09-28 14:42:53 UTC  

this is common is dem playbook see: trump, herman cain, clarence thomas. difference is the #metoo movement

2018-09-28 14:43:32 UTC  

in past we would not have allowed the circus without real evidence

2018-09-28 14:43:52 UTC  

in the mean time keith ellison wins elections

2018-09-28 14:45:05 UTC  

@Faticati I agree if they would have allowed it to remain anonymous it would have been worse

2018-09-28 14:45:25 UTC  

we have a right to face our accusers.

2018-09-28 14:45:50 UTC  

What I do not understand is why you want to destroy the accuser when you don't have to to make your case?

2018-09-28 14:46:16 UTC  

Apparently, we do because believe all women.

2018-09-28 14:46:53 UTC  

It's about as self destructive as saying 'boys will be boys' to dismiss the accusations

2018-09-28 14:47:25 UTC  

If Judge Kavanaugh doesn't get the nomination what job can he get?

2018-09-28 14:48:28 UTC  

Also why do we have to destroy the accuser?

2018-09-28 14:48:59 UTC  

I agree with you to an extent but that is a separate issue

2018-09-28 14:49:13 UTC  

regardless of whether he's put on scotus democrats are going to try to impeach him.

2018-09-28 14:49:42 UTC  

If the Dems weren't playing politics they would have investigated and nothing would have happened because she hasn't provided evidence.

2018-09-28 14:49:56 UTC  

Your stance is to burn the protection that burden of proof applies

2018-09-28 14:50:19 UTC  

what protection?

2018-09-28 14:50:47 UTC  

Lying to Congress is a crime

2018-09-28 14:51:05 UTC  

they crafted the accusation vague enough so she couldn't be jailed.

2018-09-28 14:51:11 UTC  

And you are convicting her in the court of public opinion

2018-09-28 14:51:38 UTC  

You're no better than them in that regard

2018-09-28 14:52:13 UTC  

There's a cultural issue plaguing both sides.

2018-09-28 14:53:18 UTC  

This is extremely simple NO EVIDENCE NO BELIEF

2018-09-28 14:53:27 UTC  

I am saying this never should have gotten this far.

2018-09-28 14:53:53 UTC  

Right now outside they're saying believe all women.

2018-09-28 14:54:06 UTC  

all smiles

2018-09-28 14:54:21 UTC  

What I don't get is the automatic dismissal of someone's testimony based on the fact that she's unclear on certain details.

2018-09-28 14:54:55 UTC  

'false in one, false in all'

2018-09-28 14:55:16 UTC  

Is a legal principle

2018-09-28 14:55:25 UTC  

A person can be sure something happened in childhood and not remember the date/time.

2018-09-28 14:55:36 UTC  

Yeah, why dismiss on lack of evidence? /s

2018-09-28 14:55:53 UTC  

there needs to be corroborating witnesses and/or evidence. individual testimony is worth very little, even less if there is no specificity or if it's unfalsifiable.

2018-09-28 14:56:07 UTC  

witnesses deny it happened, even her friend

2018-09-28 14:57:14 UTC  

if you want to help women who have been victimized you need to start teaching young girls to immediately come forward when they have been victimized, and to go to the police. the police. not friends, not family, no teachers, or therapists. the police.

2018-09-28 14:57:30 UTC  

she didn't even do that

2018-09-28 14:57:45 UTC  

Why would the friend remember? She was downstairs.

2018-09-28 14:57:51 UTC  

and it's not victim blaming to tell young girls not to engage in demonstrably stupid and risky activities.

2018-09-28 14:58:08 UTC  

like underage drinking at a party where you don't know anyone.