Message from @Beemann

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2018-09-28 15:21:39 UTC  

That's because the only thing that differentiated this from a kangaroo court was the number of dems in seats lol

2018-09-28 15:21:52 UTC  

If we believe that Kavanaugh is innocent until proven guilty of his charges

2018-09-28 15:23:18 UTC  

We can't make charges of perjury - and make no mistake that's what you're doing when you call her a liar - without evidence.

2018-09-28 15:23:48 UTC  

And the absence of evidence in one is not sustainable proof of the other.

2018-09-28 15:24:57 UTC  

If you dislike this court of public opinion, you have to step up and take the high road against it.

2018-09-28 15:25:09 UTC  

I think her claims can be ignored due to zero evidence. Whether or not I think she's a liar is irrelevant.

2018-09-28 15:25:10 UTC  

Not someone else, it has to start somewhere.

2018-09-28 15:25:11 UTC  

Both can be true though, she can not be lying and Kavanaugh can not be a sex offender

2018-09-28 15:25:30 UTC  

Which is the position I've consistently held

2018-09-28 15:26:18 UTC  

Because the same protections that protect Kavanaugh are the same that protect Ford.

2018-09-28 15:26:54 UTC  

It's been over 3 decades. She could easily misremember details. Mistake Kavanaugh for someone else, coping mechanisms could have kicked in etc

2018-09-28 15:27:29 UTC  

Unless you have evidence to prove she's lying about ever being a victim, you have to accept an impasse.

2018-09-28 15:27:54 UTC  

Otherwise you risk hypocrisy, and that will only strengthen your opposition

2018-09-28 15:28:01 UTC  

It's not even an impasse

2018-09-28 15:28:09 UTC  

It is, though.

2018-09-28 15:28:12 UTC  

It's not either or

2018-09-28 15:28:31 UTC  

Exactly which is why Kavanaugh would have a very hard time suing her for defamation.

2018-09-28 15:28:47 UTC  

He can't prove she's lying.

2018-09-28 15:28:54 UTC  

Her claim that she was victimized and Kavanaugh's claim that he is innocent can both simultaneously be true

2018-09-28 15:29:15 UTC  

She can also wholeheartedly believe it was him, and that could be false

2018-09-28 15:29:25 UTC  

Which means she isn't lying

2018-09-28 15:32:34 UTC  

It's Hanlons razor

2018-09-28 15:32:53 UTC  

And occom's razor

2018-09-28 15:33:08 UTC  

Dual wielded.

2018-09-28 15:33:49 UTC  

There's also the possibility he has forgotten.

2018-09-28 15:33:58 UTC  

Presume she's wrong first. If there's no explaining it that way, you can begin to presume she's lying

2018-09-28 15:34:13 UTC  

Also possible.

2018-09-28 15:34:48 UTC  

To her, it could be the day he took everything from her. To him, it was Thursday.

2018-09-28 15:37:40 UTC  

https://youtu.be/iVzAMmpMra8 for anyone who doesn't get the reference

2018-09-28 15:48:17 UTC  

There is no proof for either side, if it did happen and was tried when it happened, it would have been in a sealed record. And if this was a character flaw and not an example of a teen who had yet to figure out his alcohol limit, there would be more accusations that sound credible.

2018-09-28 15:59:24 UTC  

And not over a hundred people standing with Kavanaugh, signing their names to letters.

2018-09-28 15:59:56 UTC  

The evidence for claims against Kav was in Kav's favor.

2018-09-28 16:22:35 UTC  

But dont forget tim “give more credit to fords allegation”

2018-09-28 16:22:48 UTC  

Because she has “nothing to gain”

2018-09-28 16:23:06 UTC  

Exempt 500k+

2018-09-28 16:23:35 UTC  

No book deal or hbo show yet either

2018-09-28 16:23:57 UTC  

Like they gave that bitch who accused Clarence thomas

2018-09-28 16:24:47 UTC  

"exempt 500k+ and her party delaying the vote until after they might have more power"

2018-09-28 16:25:16 UTC  

@Timcast i feel like sometimes you are right on but damn when you miss you just turn around from the target and shot in the other direction

2018-09-28 16:37:39 UTC  

She didn't set the gofundme things up.

2018-09-28 17:25:39 UTC  

you cant claim ford is guna make moeny when other ppl set up gofundmes