Cause of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion

Sorry let me correct that, she wasn't sexually assaulted in an elevator. A man said at an elevator that he found her attractive and asked to come up for coffee which she took exception to in a video and a slate article. Dawkins weighed in that complaining about that is basically being whiny esp considering the guy left her alone after that and never layed a finger on her.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/10/sexism_in_the_skeptic_community_i_spoke_out_then_came_the_rape_threats.html Article for the curious

yeah, i know of that book :)

i watched a debate between him and a cardinal

why'd u mention him?

he was involved with the incident I am referencing

oh :o

the author of that article is the woman?

The one from the elevator yes, but she doesn't accuse Dawkins of sexually harassing/assaulting her

I misremembered the stories details

did u say she accused dawkins of sexually harassing/assaulting her then?

No, I initially said she accused a prominent member of the Atheist community of sexually assaulting her in an elevator. Risotto brought up Dawkins. My details of the story were wrong so I wanted to clarify that it wasn't a prominent member and it was claims of harassment.

oh, okay :)

I remember it was a big deal at the time

i do think she went too far

Yeah I remember it being a big deal too

It was actually a sort of landmark moment where I started to think the left was becoming unhinged

That's part of why I liken it to the metoo movement we have now

I was thinking, "being socially awkward and failing to flirt with someone isn't a crime"

i do think the metoo movement is positive, though

It was positive

Yeah. I also remember it still very much being the "wild wild west" kind of internet at the time

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So it was very much like "okay some trolls said some dumb shit online" and that doesn't really reflect the atheist movement in general

I don't know, somehow I'm beginning to think that Christopher Hitchens was the best and brightest of the "4 Horsemen" and the other 2 are Morons that are just totally wrong with their radical Atheism bullcrap. The 4th I don't know, never heard much about him.

I think Christopher also concentrated more on Islam and less Christianity....

Dawkins is fine, Harris is fine on philosophy but got too hung up on Hillary

Harris is also the one that said we may need to glass a few ME dictatorships if they get nukes, FYI. Dude isnt ignoring that issue in the slightest. Also Hitchens was a Trotskyist who then swapped to Neocon

Gotta let people have their flaws

harris is fucking hilarious on his own

in the best sort of rational way

and i say that as somebody if i had to choose more in the JBP camp. I love Harris

I agree with Harris on most things except he does have a touch of TDS

He's totally wrong about religion.

as someone who is active in Tech Forums, I know that people would be less fanatic fanboys if they had a religion fill their hole in their heart.

People don't believe in God, they believe in some leather Jacket wearing Assholes.

That is not an improvement.

Fanboys act like highly religious people, like you insult their faith when you tell them that you don't like certain aspects of the Company or their Products.

I guess you're right. I try to listen to the message more than follow the person. Like if JBP went full SJW or Alt-Right, I would definitely back away

"People don't believe in God, they believe in some leather Jacket wearing Assholes."
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