sam and jbp goodbois

alex jones and infowars is on there

only a matter of time before mgtow is discriminated against

oh wait its already happening

but when they debate eachother they both seem less convincing to me lol, sam loses any depth he appeared to have before and peterson talks kinda circular

well u have to keep talking about what u preach otherwise people wont listen

also subjectively i have to agree with @Stefan Payne on people just replacing religion or spirituality of some form with either other individuals or insert x groups belief (usually political). i don't think this means you HAVE to be religious, but its a fallacy to try and not fall into if you are faithless since the instinct does genuinely seem programmed into most people, and it can happen real easy if you aren't weary of it

that only happens to the idiots that follow the crowd and not their heart, if you find something that really speaks to u than do it. Not just because someone else is doing it

then*

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/318904864811778048/495666886495698949/unknown.png

Back in those days, "What are facts?" were just one pillar

But during the Enlightenment it overtook the others

I should just link the video that's from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CltwD0Ek9Kk&t=2579s

I thought that was a nice graphic so I capped it

@Deleted User ya the whole 'follow your heart' thing doesn't speak to a lot of relatively intelligent but neurotic people, it sounds completely empty to them, tbh kinda a slap in the face. Sams point with that would work if everybody was naturally motivated but they aren't, which in regards to more regular life advice stuff is where some of petersons stuff speaks to more people

idk i dont like being one of the masses, just so boring and un fulfilling to follow someone without believing in them/it yourself

oh yeah ofc nothing wrong with that

i think payne was more refering to people who put individuals on very high pedestals, to the extreme etc

I can't remember where I saw it, but I heard a theory that unmarried men are much more to the right than average and unmarried women are much more to the left. Supposedly, marriage moderates both sexes.

isn't jbp pretty much self help 101 + jesus

No, JBP is baby's first Nietzsche and Jung + Jesus

Peterson is half right but Harris is all wrong.

Whats JBP wrong about? actually curious

Oh what was the Jesus Word Harris used??

Jesus Smuggling?

sorry, that was @Stefan Payne

Yes, that was it!

Y'know, Sam Harris is the most religious person in the Pangbourne debates

his religion is Atheism. He is more evanjelical than the Mormons

Everyone's got a religion

mine's anime thighs

```Everyone's got a religion```
Exactly my point. When you don't believe in God, your mind looks for other things to believe in. And if they aren't ment to be believed in, its a very very bad thing.

many people are ok with not knowing

I've got no idea

there could be a god of some kind

Or maybe we all originated from the big bang

Or maybe we are living in a simulation

or maybe something completely different

my religion is capitalism

```Everyone's got a religion```
I dont. That might be thing for people who "stopped beliving"🤔

But i have been atheist all my life. So no, not everyone have religion.