The Pinochet method huh.

@Jes Yes you must come to the states
the great exchange can be leftists to Europe
rightists to the US
both sides can be in cultures that align with their ideals

I'd rather fix the country I'm in

of course these days rightist includes classical liberals and basically anyone who isn't socialist

so we'll have diverse opinions at least

@Deleted User it's anyone who basically isn't a communist

Like early 1900's all over again

Today, right and left are relative of an ever shifting center.

A center that moves further and further left.

I would go look at that Tim video, which I'm sure you did already, where Tim shows the data for the shift.

It's interesting how little shift on the right happened by comparison to me at least

The shift he presented was for Democrats and Republicans.

According to politics not too long ago, both parties would be left.

if you judge it by TODAY'S standard of what "left" is, then you would say the left would be right wing

while the right has shifted slightly left to at least some degree

Yes. That is why I referred to a shifting center.

Left and right only makes sense in relation to the current center, not as absolute terms, in that context.

Otherwise, they would still refer to the original meaning of pro monarchy and pro democracy affiliations, as the term was first used during the French Revolution.

Now, it's kind of murky what "left" and "right" means.

If Hitler is extreme right and Stalin extreme left, what am I? Halfway between Stalin and Hitler? That makes no sense.

hitler is third position

@Deleted User thats the plan.
Downside of splitting that way is the right tends to not change when needed. without the left to pull them forward the right only leads to stagnation

also good oppersition keeps people working on better ideas.

@oprahsminge yes mate, the Conservative party in the UK is majority centre left now

as the overton window shifted.

they went with it

@Undead Mockingbird Hitler wasnt extreme right. some of his ideas were but mostly he was a far lefty

Well, pick whoever you like.

😃

You will probably find that it makes just as little sense to present it as a continuous spectrum.

I think as long as we all keep talking and no one starts claiming X group is superior/inferior/evil/good ect we should make it through this folly

Agreed.

Except people who put toilet paper upset down.

the individual is the only minority that matters 😃

hahaha ❤

There is ONE proper way to put the toilet paper on the holder. All humans should have rights - except the ones that put the toilet paper coming from UNDER onto the holder.

If we could eliminate all such people, utopia would be achieved.

#VoteMockingbird2020

I honestly just slap the roll on without looking

I cannot be controlled. I am the overhuman

^ did you get affected by the kid earlier