Message from @Dvir

Discord ID: 504515996766175232


2018-10-24 04:38:44 UTC  

I've been trying to follow the conversation and from what I get it's more that melding Gnostism with Christianity would help shore up those parts of Christianty that turn people away from 'religion' and towards more materialistic and nihilistic thinking.

2018-10-24 04:39:49 UTC  

Okay. I understand the utilitarian viewpoint, but I'm afraid I can't agree.

2018-10-24 04:40:00 UTC  

Beliefs should be based around what is correct, not what is useful.

2018-10-24 04:40:22 UTC  

How come no one is debating in the voice chat?

2018-10-24 04:40:32 UTC  

But religion is subjective

2018-10-24 04:40:40 UTC  

Text is good for posterity, helps go over things later.

2018-10-24 04:40:45 UTC  

Just like any other form of the humanities

2018-10-24 04:41:01 UTC  

Hmm? Most religions have concrete statements about objective reality that are true or false.

2018-10-24 04:41:29 UTC  

The Gnostic view of the material world is largely disconnected.

2018-10-24 04:41:37 UTC  

Since it isn't the realm of God

2018-10-24 04:41:43 UTC  

Especially Abrahamic religions.

2018-10-24 04:41:56 UTC  

My microphone is broken. I can't speak for other people though.

2018-10-24 04:42:16 UTC  

I'm on my laptop, and its noisy.

2018-10-24 04:42:41 UTC  

Bookworm, when it comes to religion on what basis would you regard a religion as correct?

2018-10-24 04:43:47 UTC  

When their statements and beliefs align correctly with reality.

2018-10-24 04:45:26 UTC  

Would you concede that the material world is intrinsically flawed?

2018-10-24 04:45:27 UTC  

What religion or faith do you follow? What do you believe aligns the closest with reality?

2018-10-24 04:45:30 UTC  

Alright, I think I'm going to hit the hay. Feel free to send me any questions directly and I'll do my best to respond tomorrow. Good night, guys, it was nice talking to you.

2018-10-24 04:45:38 UTC  

Me, personally? Roman Catholicism.

2018-10-24 04:46:06 UTC  

Would I concede that the material world is intrinsically flawed? ...Intrinsically is the key word there. I think...no.

2018-10-24 04:46:27 UTC  

But there is entropy

2018-10-24 04:46:37 UTC  

Energy is slowly drained

2018-10-24 04:46:46 UTC  

There is division of forces

2018-10-24 04:47:21 UTC  

Have a good night, Bookworm. If you're available tomorrow it would be nice to continue this chat.

2018-10-24 05:27:21 UTC  

Id like to go to,church, problem is the churches here are sketchy as hell and are full off upper middle class chinese. I day this as one.

2018-10-24 13:58:25 UTC  

I am a Buddhist
We believe what we can see
We believe what we can prove to true

2018-10-24 14:00:27 UTC  

So I ended up with the conclusion that Masturbation was parts of reason why I failed as a swimmer
There are some other reasons, too, but they are all just there to make feel less guilty

2018-10-24 15:30:49 UTC  

Correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation.

2018-10-24 17:40:45 UTC  

So regards to the bombs found in the DNC, does anyone else think this is an inside job? Seems awfully convenient for this to happen 2 weeks from midterms.

2018-10-24 17:42:00 UTC  

Alexander Soros just blamed Trump for it.

2018-10-24 17:42:10 UTC  

As if they knew the packages would be intercepted and reported.

2018-10-24 17:42:52 UTC  

It isn't a definite, but it is within the realms of plausibility at this point.

2018-10-24 17:42:56 UTC  

There is no low the DNC would go.

2018-10-24 17:56:25 UTC  

Heres an argument

2018-10-24 17:56:58 UTC  

Atheism is a fundamentally flawed and weak religion.

2018-10-24 17:57:20 UTC  

And it is a religion

2018-10-24 17:57:46 UTC  

It is an ideological stance on the existence of God and the nature of reality.

2018-10-24 17:58:00 UTC  

It is a religion with role of refuting religion.

2018-10-24 17:58:33 UTC  

If you are familiar with 40k, atheism can almost be personified by the fifth Chaos God Malal.

2018-10-24 18:00:18 UTC  

It is flawed and weak because it is the rejection of a higher reality beyond the material. The fervent of Atheists are just as zealous and dogmatic as any other religious radical.

2018-10-24 18:01:47 UTC  

An atheist isn't like an agnostic who I would better describe as secularists, since they largely remove themselves from religion.