Message from @Bookworm
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*Hypostasis*
so you belive god have always existed?
but universe cant be always existed?
That is the general Christian worldview
The difference is that God did not create the Universe
The Universe is the result of complete totality coming into contact with absolute nothingness.
It is as light is, it always seeks darkness to fill.
Those things could never have existed logically
why you think there have to be starting point?
Why there have to be nothingness before universe came to be?
why it cant just be always been there?
The Universe lies below the Aeons (divine realms fashioned in conscious thought) and is personified as the being Yaldabaoth, the great balancer/
Complete totality could never have been seperate in order to come into contact with absolute nothingness
going to deep into theism here
can't really apply and logic here
Because the existence of something automatically destroys the existence of nothingness
semantics
what is nothing?
what is something?
If there is only something, there isn't everything.
But if there IS something, there is no absolute nothingness either
this universe is the bottom aethyr of 30 - it was nothing until the higher aethyrs touched the nothingness to create our plain of existance
Dark Holes are an example of absolute nothingness
something along those lines as per the books of enoch
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If there's one subject that could be singled out as the most difficult to discuss through text over the internet, metaphysics would probably be a strong contender.
What is a dark hole?
black holes are technically physical objects though
their mass is just so great
Black holes are huge amounts of mass
Theyre so massive that they have a pull on photons
So they can't be seen
just think - the amount of shear mass in a black whole, there may be an entire universe inside one, we ourselves could be inside a giant black hole. Our universe was created when our black hole formed
there is not an entire universe in them though
we have a basic understanding how how black holes come to be, and therefore what they're made of
multiverse theory is a hypothesis
no grounds for it's truth, but no way to disprove it
just a theory
Interesting thought, but the universe shows an ability to expand and contract, whereas black holes can only gain mass
Or at least, it is theorised that way, the problem with many things this big is the amount of belief and assumptions that you have to make
https://curiosity.com/topics/there-might-be-a-universe-inside-every-black-hole-curiosity/
another bit of explanation
```Black holes form when a very massive star dies and its core collapses into a space so small that not even light can escape it. The boundary that delineates that point of no return is called the event horizon, and a sort of opaque "wrapping" that doesn't let you see the singularity itself. Importantly, as matter falls into the black hole, the event horizon grows: rapidly at first as the black hole begins to form, then more slowly as matter falls in at a lower rate.
During the first trillionth of a second after the Big Bang, the universe expanded incredibly rapidly — faster than the speed of light. (Since space was technically being created, that universal speed limit didn't have much sway). Over time, that expansion slowed down. Doesn't that sound a lot like a black hole's event horizon? Is it possible that our universe is the event horizon in some other universe's black hole?```
could just be a similarity
we can't say anything for sure
all we can do is list off what something "isn't"
which is the scientific method
When it comes to the nature of this Universe, the scientific method supersedes religion
A black hole is mass though and the universe has plenty of space where thre is no mass