Lol no, Jim implied Vee was responsible because his friends were in the discord (where, from what I've been hearing, the doxxing didn't actually take place) and as such Vee must have known more than he claims. Meanwhile Jim hangs out with people who assault police and sexually harass wahmen

Vee was saying, and I would agree, that Jim shouldn't be held responsible for people like JF and Ralph

And Jim made that retarded ass comment about how if money is being made you're affiliated
While Jim had been involved in IBS streams for ages
Not a good stance to take

@Timcast Your comment about "unfettered capitalism" and pollution is misinformed. It was government, not the market, which enabled pollution at scale into commons. Disregarding their role as arbiter of private property disputes. When people brought businesses to court over air and water pollution early in the industrial revolution it was government which said that it was OK because it was for the benefit of all.

It's fine if you think it'd happen even if there was free market courts but history shows that businesses got away with polluting because governments allowed it.

There is also the whole "pollution is stinky and people prefer their planet to not be stinky" that capitalism would eventually take care of.

pollution got out of hand during the industrial revolution to the early 50s partly because until then we were basically..more worried about actually eating and not dying than we were about the long term effects of industry..cause people weren't really living long enough to care.

Certainly that was part of it too.

Given pollution is subjective it was reasonable that courts ruled that say... burning wood for heat was not pollution because everyone did it and pretty much everyone accepted that as the cost of surviving.

Well yes, when the choice is "Die, or pollute" the second choice will always be taken

that is why China is currently one of the largest sources of pollution..people are choosing "Not fucking die"

Well, death in this case being a national kind of death, where their relevancy is destroyed and they become economically colonized by stronger powers.

Well no

I meant the low class farmers who worry about things like starving, and who want to move into the growing Chinese middle class.

@Beemann dont forget vee is into ageplay

and a bunch of other degenerate shit

Everyone knows Vee is a degenerate. Who gives a fuck? JF fucked a potato and Ralph assaulted an officer. Clearly Jim doesnt care about what the people he's associated with do in their spare time, he just wants Vee to hold himself to that standard

degenerate or deviant?
One is a moral judgement, the other is simply something outside the norm.

Fucking degenerate

Ralph was drunk and continually says he fucked up

Vee continually jerks it to little kids

@Beemann and no jim just doesn’t want people to be fucking degenerates

And dox people

And claim to have such deep and powerful principles while doing skeevy shit in the back room

you'd have to define "little kids"

some people call 16 yo's "little kids" because the legal age is 18 in their place of residence, while its perfectly legal elsewhere

Ralph has been a continual disappointment, including trying to get people doxxed. Who has Vee doxxed? Is there proof that Vee has a secret CP stash? Or is this more "coincidence" shit?

His account on some weird forum

so no definition to "little kids".
I'm going to assume its hyperbole and dismiss the accusations

It depends on the kid

?

oh you dont know that one? sargon's made fun of for it all the time

Sargon says “it depends on the child”

context being that ethnically and lawfully each state has its own cultural and legislative behaviors that set age restrictions for things.. especially sexual things, but that some youth are less developed/mature than others. hence it depends on the child.

It's obvious he's not advocating for sex with youths, but thats the joke people play on.

I see. I mean, technically, i can't disagree.
But we don't live in a society that deals with people on an individual basis. (usually)

It would be scary if we did

There are cases for it in the US.. each state has their own age limits, but then also consent from the youth and/or their parent.

15 is the youngest I think?

us law is pretty retarded.
Its best just to assume legal age in the US is 18

But yeah I've seen some smart, well-oriented 15 year olds that just don't know everything yet, but i've also seen some idiotic 29 year olds I wouldn't trust with a goldfish let alone a date.