Imma fuk u up

What are my options now. I've been following the patreon debacle from a far...but haven't moved away from it yet. How do I pay you Time?

**Tim

he has like a recurring paypal thing on his website

Yeah, be mindful that you'll lose your rank once you drop your patreon.

as in, IMMEDIATELY.

@Hops , in case you miss that.

"Imma fuk u..." -Sexual Harrassment Coochie
@Hops I think he mentioned a direct payment method. Subscribestar *might* pull out of the Great Yeeting? I havent been keeping up

@Timcast sargon lied to everyone he said that patreon did not give him a warning when they did he just did this whole thing for publicity

Im curious, you got evidence?

citations plz

because that'd change... well honestly it would change a large bit, but their banning him is still against their ToS at the time.

and if you're talking about the whole vidcon thing, that was no warning. They call it a warning because apparently "them talking about him" is a warning

even though they agreed he did absolutely nothing wrong.

Pretty sure if Patreon gave him (or others) a warning they would have said as much when discussing the situation.

If that was the case, that chick would have said so.

She didn't. So the truth is somewhere in between

it's more likely patreon is claiming "X = a warning" retroactively.

because we know they're already doing that

but more importantly... what if patreon itself isn't ruled by activists, but instead is being pressured by paypal and stripe? We know Paypal threw Jihadhiwatch out because mastercard told them too.

IMHO, the moneylenders look like they're weighing in on the culture war

I've been watching everyone post and listening intently to Tim and even Styx the past two weeks. As I see it, the hyper-polarized west is a losing proposition for companies that have any control over who they partner with. There are many who will not do business with people who partner with those who hold views they see as abhorrent. On the other hand, there are those who won't do business with those who restrict speech to "mainstream" sensibilities.

That vid by Tim yesterday about efforts to maintain a seemly discourse on Twitch left me really thinking about my own actions. There are games I don't play simply because I don't like the comments I have to read or the behaviors I see. I have better things to do with my time than deal with mean people. I know many others who are turned off by the meanness endemic in many online games or gaming venues. The general dickery limits the audience and the growth potential of games. But when the companies try to police speech, they get whacked by their core players. So companies are given a lose-lose choice of either letting the toxic environment continue and limiting their market to a core group of people who like it, or restrict speech so they can appeal to broader audiences but get hit by the ire of their core players. Whether a company "gets woke" or not, they still go broke...or at least make less money than if the only issue was the quality of the game.

Problem is: you have to reward players for good behaviour not punish them for bad.

Insightful post

next problem: You ain't dealin with Adults here, most of the time...

we're talking (more often than not) about 10-15 year old youngsters.

So if we're talking about for example Tom Clancy's The Division, you first have to deal with everyone that is underaged.

I disagree we see in adults too

Of course, like that asshole Twitch Streamer that Jeremy mentioned a couple of days ago that got killed by someone.

toxic people like that should be banned from that game for life and other online games for 6 months

So you do believe in punishing people for bad behavior

if we are talking about hurting the other one in real life, yes.

in this case we're talking about false DMCA Claims

Isnt the average gaming age like 35?

@Timcast This "green new deal" stuff is idiotic. 1) The original New Deal was a major contributing factor to the Great Depression. Seems like a bad thing to make parallels to. 2) The claim that it will lead to an economic windfall is contradicted by the fact people are asking government to initiate and subsidize it. If it were profitable there would be no need to subsidize. Businesses make long term plans all the time. New companies come in and compete to put pressure on existing businesses.

all these things are true

I don't disagree that he Green New Deal is the wrong prescription for a real problem. That said, I think the New Deal was fantastic for the time it existed and there is plenty of evidence for that. Did it solve the Depression by itself. Of course not - the depression was too big to be solved by any one solution. But did it very possibly save the US from a revolution - arguably yes.

Good medicine, but wrong ailment for it in this case.

That's simply false.

Nothing about the new deal helped the depression