Message from @Vannevariable

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2018-12-31 22:19:12 UTC  

Now they're trying to close the door. :-(

2018-12-31 22:20:58 UTC  

Race is funny. Trans is hilarious. Gay is goofy. Age - what, I can't joke to kids to "get off my internet/lawn" anymore?

2018-12-31 22:22:12 UTC  

I don't think gen z is conservative so much as they want thier fun back. To quote a band back in my day and age, "you gotta fight...for your right...to paaaaartyyyyy" :-)

2018-12-31 22:23:47 UTC  

Fight on, kids 🤙

2018-12-31 22:30:49 UTC  

```So, should comedy be a "safe space" from political correctness?```
No. Because that implies letting PC culture run everything else.

2018-12-31 23:08:46 UTC  

Comedy should always be free to say whatever it wants. And anyone can be a comedian.

2019-01-01 10:42:46 UTC  

if you don't like what someone says, stop listening/watching. You have the right to control YOUR intake.

2019-01-01 10:43:11 UTC  

NOT the intake of others.

2019-01-01 11:04:27 UTC  

So you are saying that it's wrong to limit the voice of people who want to commit mass genocide

2019-01-01 11:04:39 UTC  

At what point is the line drawn?

2019-01-01 11:05:58 UTC  

Like let's say for example, a guy is walking down the street yelling bomb threats at every store.

2019-01-01 11:06:17 UTC  

Do we just not listen or do we take him down?

2019-01-01 11:07:30 UTC  

No one likes what he is saying, but we cant limit in the intake, even though what he is saying threatens violence.

2019-01-01 11:08:30 UTC  

At what point is speech more than speech, when they are holding the gun, or when they say the next time they will be.

2019-01-01 11:09:27 UTC  

You get my drift? Freedom of speech is limited, we gotta draw the line at an agreeable position. You cant threaten me, I cant threaten you.

2019-01-01 11:09:34 UTC  

Pretty agreeable to me

2019-01-01 11:10:18 UTC  

It's kinda like that thing where it's not protected speech to yell fire in a crowded theater.

2019-01-01 11:10:41 UTC  

The reason being, you are lieing to cause a panic.

2019-01-01 11:11:00 UTC  

Well if your telling the truth its okay

2019-01-01 11:31:35 UTC  

but there will always be someone who belives you are saying the truth and somone who doesnt so i dont think the Free speech should be regulated it should be Free as its name implies and is your choice to believe the person and make preparations about possible outcomes because you cant protect yourself from words but can protect yourseflves from actions

2019-01-01 12:54:09 UTC  

we already HAVE laws punishing incitement to violence

2019-01-01 12:54:28 UTC  

yes, speech should be free.

2019-01-01 12:54:51 UTC  

at the same time, we need to teach people not to believe anything they hear.

2019-01-01 12:55:06 UTC  

or read, in the case of the internet.

2019-01-01 13:21:09 UTC  

And what about Mainstream Media?
Like the lies about the AfD, Trump and all other regime critic?

2019-01-01 13:22:31 UTC  

first of all, that would be mitigated by people not believing everything they read/hear. Second of all... don't we have a law stating satire doesn't class as satire if it's not explicitly stated to be so?

2019-01-01 14:19:07 UTC  

If they lie they should have the right to, and then be sued for defamation if they don't retract blatantly false statements. And the court of public opinion should also work against them.

2019-01-01 14:27:49 UTC  

IDK if that's viable though...

2019-01-01 14:37:11 UTC  

I wasn't talking about Satire. I was talking about them beeing serious.

2019-01-01 14:37:40 UTC  

and lying about violence and claiming that it was right wing radicals burning shit.
When in reality it was left wing radicals.

2019-01-01 14:38:21 UTC  

so no, your idea is bullshit because you miss 2/3 of the Problem. Because the Legacy Media is the main problem right now, less the shit of the Internet. Most people realize that it ain't true.

2019-01-01 14:38:55 UTC  

but the old pensioner still believe the lies on TV and in the Papers.

2019-01-01 15:05:07 UTC  

Which idea is bullshit, Stefan?

2019-01-01 15:12:11 UTC  

```at the same time, we need to teach people not to believe anything they hear.
or read, in the case of the internet.````
The last part of that.
Its not limited to the Internet, that's bullshit.

2019-01-01 15:17:50 UTC  

Agree

2019-01-01 15:18:20 UTC  

People should always scrutinize data before they make it information.

2019-01-01 15:18:26 UTC  

That's science.

2019-01-01 15:44:18 UTC  

oh that thing leftists have rejected for years now?

2019-01-01 17:02:00 UTC  

yeah, they've replaced it with a true upgrade: feelings and hearsay

2019-01-01 17:59:43 UTC  

Don't forget Taboo and religious dogma.

2019-01-01 18:14:01 UTC  

leftists use religious dogma? I suppose... that'd be the only religious stuff they'd use XD