Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-01-06 19:00:59 UTC  

well, a shame that good people cant get up by their own merits anymore 😉

2018-01-06 19:01:06 UTC  

Most just wanted change

2018-01-06 19:01:25 UTC  

And well, people like those 3 being candidates were a symtom, people wanted to be back in control

2018-01-06 19:01:39 UTC  

Rock the boat as people say

2018-01-06 19:02:08 UTC  

Honestly, I think what we need before another alternative party (because technically, the Libertarians *are* an alternative) is term limits and age limits for all political offices

2018-01-06 19:02:21 UTC  

Hillary really alienated me from the dems. I've always voted blue but then I got a letter a few weeks before the election; it was her "thanking" me for my support. I am on disability and have never donated to the party. My father and other family members have. They never got a thank you letter. I did. I am the only woman in the family; the ones who donated and supported her were hard-working men; this really broke me and made me distance myself from her entirely.

2018-01-06 19:03:01 UTC  

Pics of the letter with names blacked out?

2018-01-06 19:03:18 UTC  

Or not actually, I might be able to google it

2018-01-06 19:03:24 UTC  

so you saw this as pandering to you as part of a special interest group? well, thats pretty corporate huh

2018-01-06 19:03:32 UTC  

bad style

2018-01-06 19:03:47 UTC  

Or they didnt think she would have noticed

2018-01-06 19:03:50 UTC  

@GingaBomber I'll have to go find it. It's a generic letter but the rest of my family never recieved one.

2018-01-06 19:04:03 UTC  

Ah thanks anyway.

2018-01-06 19:04:15 UTC  

Do DM it to me, in case of all the comments flood it out

2018-01-06 19:04:17 UTC  

If you okay

2018-01-06 19:04:23 UTC  

Okay.

2018-01-06 19:04:41 UTC  

Should clarify that I aint american, but I found the politics there fascinating

2018-01-06 19:05:02 UTC  

I'm a gay guy, and I voted for Trump because of numerous reasons, but what made me interested in politics in general was first #Gamergate, and second was in political conversations, people would speak on my behalf/imply that I was "obviously" a democrat because I was gay

2018-01-06 19:05:08 UTC  

Really pissed me off

2018-01-06 19:05:10 UTC  

I'm of the opinion that, with the exception of tyrannical parties, the outcome of elections is mostly irrelevant, increasingly so as time goes on. What really matters is the ideas and morals of the society. This is what really shapes the fate of a country.

2018-01-06 19:05:14 UTC  

And well... Kinda rooted for them the whole way, cause if it aint the US being No1 in military, it will be either Russia or China

2018-01-06 19:05:29 UTC  

And I dont trust either. So well, lesser evils and all that

2018-01-06 19:05:50 UTC  

Well, it always boils down to the people really.

2018-01-06 19:06:03 UTC  

Culture?

2018-01-06 19:06:37 UTC  

culture comes from principles

2018-01-06 19:06:42 UTC  

Fascinating actually, GG isnt something I see discussed outside KIA in a possitive light

2018-01-06 19:06:59 UTC  

I mean, i kinda got jaded with the media after that

2018-01-06 19:07:14 UTC  

@WOODY I disagree, policies are vastly more important, it is the morality of wanting to help others that has led us directly into this finacial crisis which our generation will be paying off for our entire lives, as well as our children's lives.

2018-01-06 19:07:15 UTC  

Found Pool after that. Well, went after alternative news

2018-01-06 19:07:43 UTC  

I mean, man... The journey.

2018-01-06 19:07:53 UTC  

@GingaBomber You find American politics interesting? I prefer satire based on American politics:

The Ephebians believed that every man should have the vote. Every five years someone was elected to be Tyrant, provided he could prove that he was honest, intelligent, sensible, and trustworthy. Immediately after he was elected, of course, it was obvious to everyone that he was a criminal madman and totally out of touch with the view of the ordinary philosopher in the streets looking for a towel. And then five years later they elected another one just like him, and really it was amazing how intelligent people kept on making the same mistakes.

- Terry Pratchett, *Small Gods*

2018-01-06 19:08:10 UTC  

I think American politics is so dynamic because of sort of the frontier history; it's a young country that has had to give the middle finger and fight a lot. It had to go from 3rd world to first world in 200 years. In the late 1800s half of the country was still living in a way that is comparible now to a lot of developing countries, while the other half was 1st world and both ends were trying to create enough infelstructure to have everything even across the board.

2018-01-06 19:08:24 UTC  

Oh god, I need more clips, cause that ones so true

2018-01-06 19:08:37 UTC  

Well, does not help that the people we want in politics dont want to be in it

2018-01-06 19:09:00 UTC  

You get the power hungry and the greedy, since they are the ones with the initiative to run for it

2018-01-06 19:09:09 UTC  

@Deleted User are you suggesting that the only moral choices are to help others? I recently read Atlas Shrugged, and the objectivists would argue that altruism is actually immoral.

2018-01-06 19:09:25 UTC  

And well, people dont like to be forced into a duty they did not wish for

2018-01-06 19:10:03 UTC  

@WOODY I would say that helping others in of itself is a virtuous thing to do that lines up with Western Values, but Democrats and the left has taken it to an extreme, slowly and progressively in the last 50 years

2018-01-06 19:10:41 UTC  

What if say it was a difference in empathy then?

2018-01-06 19:10:54 UTC  

Or to whom the altruism was directed against?

2018-01-06 19:11:21 UTC  

Like the Repubs being American citizens, especially the vets and the homeless, while to the Dems, minorities