Message from @ping

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2018-01-10 00:27:02 UTC  

He declared global warming fake news and took a victory on that promise I think

2018-01-10 00:27:42 UTC  

"I have pulled out of the Paris Accords, I have saved the coal industry. Job down."

2018-01-10 00:27:55 UTC  

"now if only I had pulled out of Paris Accord...."

2018-01-10 00:28:26 UTC  

Well, the Paris Accord was definately not helping against GW.

2018-01-10 00:28:58 UTC  

And the US was actually putting more of an effort into it more than other countries were.

2018-01-10 00:29:12 UTC  

And who was keeping track?

2018-01-10 00:29:19 UTC  

Of all the money?

2018-01-10 00:29:35 UTC  

largest alterinative energy producer

2018-01-10 00:29:38 UTC  

Or if the countries were actually using them for their intended purposes? Do we just take their word for it?

2018-01-10 00:29:40 UTC  

I don't really care about them tbh, and GW alarmist hurt it worst than denyists I think.

2018-01-10 00:29:45 UTC  

With coal it's not just about global warming, coal power plants produce a shitload of toxic byproducts

2018-01-10 00:29:47 UTC  

Like, making sure some of the money didn't just... disappear?

2018-01-10 00:30:05 UTC  

Coal just in general has been on the way out for a while

2018-01-10 00:30:32 UTC  

We need more nuclear plants.

2018-01-10 00:30:33 UTC  

oil is heading that way too

2018-01-10 00:30:37 UTC  

People not happy with regulation around it? Or that people can get it cheaper overseas?

2018-01-10 00:30:48 UTC  

Like what caused the US coal mines to shut down in the first place?

2018-01-10 00:31:23 UTC  

@CreativeRealms if they were more commercially viable we would be building them

2018-01-10 00:31:54 UTC  

And well, if they had some low risk areas to construct them

2018-01-10 00:32:08 UTC  

They are powerful yes, but one mistake can screw over alot

2018-01-10 00:32:11 UTC  

When oil prices slowly increase they would be more appealing to investors

2018-01-10 00:32:35 UTC  

Not that we dont trust Nuclear, more like we dont trust people to keep it in check

2018-01-10 00:32:48 UTC  

Not to mention that it can be used for war as well

2018-01-10 00:32:51 UTC  

Nuclear reactors in the US are very safe

2018-01-10 00:32:52 UTC  

wind and solar are easy to setup, easy to invest in. nuke power is always on the table too

2018-01-10 00:32:59 UTC  

Yeah they are really safe.

2018-01-10 00:33:10 UTC  

That's part of their cost though

2018-01-10 00:33:21 UTC  

expensive to run

2018-01-10 00:33:38 UTC  

Less pollution though.

2018-01-10 00:33:39 UTC  

@ping Nuclear reactors anywhere are very safe. The only major nuclear accidents in history were flukes or design flaws that have been fixed in newer plants

2018-01-10 00:33:51 UTC  

That said, the second biggest disaster since cernnobyle resulted in no deaths related to radiation. At least that was the numbers of few months ago

2018-01-10 00:34:22 UTC  

You could argue birth defects

2018-01-10 00:34:27 UTC  

Some will argue that the damage to the environment is more important

2018-01-10 00:34:38 UTC  

pfft the environment.

2018-01-10 00:34:39 UTC  

It probably killed people, just not from radiation poisoning

2018-01-10 00:34:54 UTC  

THing is, they can claim everything on radiation as well

2018-01-10 00:35:22 UTC  

like random people getting birth defects. How do we know if its related to radiation

2018-01-10 00:35:25 UTC  

@ping The problem that caused Chernobyl was a design flaw that had already been fixed in reactors 10 years younger than it, and Fukushima's problem was the backup generators being flooded because the tsunami was larger than any recorded

2018-01-10 00:35:42 UTC  

But dont get me wrong, Id love nuclear power.

2018-01-10 00:35:45 UTC  

I'm relatively sure the problem that caused Three Mile Island was also a design flaw that had already been fixed in newer plants

2018-01-10 00:35:48 UTC  

And even then it still worked pretty well