Message from @Revan

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2018-01-10 00:59:27 UTC  

stop.

2018-01-10 00:59:33 UTC  

Let's just orbit the sun to build things

2018-01-10 00:59:37 UTC  

use your brain

2018-01-10 00:59:39 UTC  

Problem solved

2018-01-10 00:59:45 UTC  

Oh, another reason to go to the moon, as @Dionara just mentioned, is getting stuff to the orbit to whatever you're building

2018-01-10 00:59:46 UTC  

I don't know astrophysics.

2018-01-10 00:59:56 UTC  

1/6th the gravity = less fuel to get materials up

2018-01-10 01:00:25 UTC  

So basically, the only use of the moon is a construction site and warehouse

2018-01-10 01:00:35 UTC  

I thought we were talking stuff from earth to the ISS

2018-01-10 01:00:39 UTC  

Not from the moon to ISS

2018-01-10 01:00:46 UTC  

the ISS is in a position where the cost in fuel of pushing it is less than what it would cost for every resuply mission to get to that higher orbit

2018-01-10 01:00:53 UTC  

We started this asking why build shit on the moon

2018-01-10 01:01:01 UTC  

if you put it on the moon it would cost many times more

2018-01-10 01:01:16 UTC  

Unless there is a self-sustaining colony on the moon.

2018-01-10 01:01:19 UTC  

You can build on the moon to eventually make it easier to get to mars.

2018-01-10 01:01:26 UTC  

That hs a surplus of supplies to send.

2018-01-10 01:01:28 UTC  

@Dionara you can't have a self sustaining colony on the moon

2018-01-10 01:01:51 UTC  

@ping Would it be any harder than building a self-sustaining colony on Mars?

2018-01-10 01:02:06 UTC  

@ping We can't make green houses, inject soil with nitrogen to make it more fertile, create gravity fields?

2018-01-10 01:02:09 UTC  

Does the moon have the required water?

2018-01-10 01:02:12 UTC  

If so, then that's the only reason not to colonize the moon

2018-01-10 01:02:24 UTC  

mars has water, minerals, energy, an atmosphere to keep you from getting cancer

2018-01-10 01:02:40 UTC  

Well, idk about the atmosphere.

2018-01-10 01:02:43 UTC  

It has one, yes

2018-01-10 01:02:55 UTC  

Mars has a minimal atmosphere

2018-01-10 01:03:08 UTC  

But idk if it will be enough xD

2018-01-10 01:03:09 UTC  

We would still need some sort of covering for the colony

2018-01-10 01:03:09 UTC  

Pretty sure the atmosphere on Mars is still filled with things that give you cancer

2018-01-10 01:03:27 UTC  

a lot less than earth, but infinitely more than the moon

2018-01-10 01:03:35 UTC  

And isn't the dust toxic?

2018-01-10 01:03:43 UTC  

On mars

2018-01-10 01:03:46 UTC  

probably

2018-01-10 01:03:53 UTC  

Show of hands

2018-01-10 01:03:58 UTC  

the surface is covered in perchlorates

2018-01-10 01:04:06 UTC  

which have been known to be toxic on earth

2018-01-10 01:04:06 UTC  

Who has a degree in astrophysics, or has taken classes on the subject?

2018-01-10 01:04:23 UTC  

I need to ask a scientist.

2018-01-10 01:04:39 UTC  

Either way, I think it probably takes roughly the same technology to colonize mars as the moon. But the moon doesn't seem to have much value compared to mars.

2018-01-10 01:04:41 UTC  

the moon has rocks that have to be melted to filter out the minerals, little to no chemical energy, no water, and a whole lot of depression

2018-01-10 01:04:42 UTC  

This is why I'm not discussing it all that much.

2018-01-10 01:04:50 UTC  

@Dionara Pretty sure the answer to that for all of us would be "No, I don't have a degree and I haven't taken classes on the subject"