With some web development as I know JavaScript, just not great

@ping I know there's more to it than that, but they're both supersets of Java

Any valid Java code is also valid Groovy/Kotlin code

C# has only really started to take off recently now that the .net framework is going cross platform

just like C++ is just a superset of C

And Microsoft is making things more open source

C++ isnt a superset of C though

Any valid C code is valid C++ code, ergo C++ is a superset of C

It is

Not at all

Give me one line of code that would compile under C but not under C++

C++ doesn't allow most of the pointer casts involved with idiomatic C

Yes it does. It just has better syntax for those now, so people rarely use the old C pointer casts

No naming in struct initializers

You have to extern "C" all C headers to make sure symbols aren't mangled

I'm not well versed on struct initializers, so I can't speak to those

@Revan it doesn't, under the spec you can only up/downcast pointers

@ping But the compilers still have to support it

Wait, whys the convo on coding now?

Wasnt it electric cars before

Because we are actually qualified to talk about coding

@GingaBomber Because ping and I disagree on the definition of "<Language B> is a superset of <Language A>"

The compilers let you deviate from the specs but that doesn't really count as a language feature

Well I guess, but my expertise is only in C++ and C#

More C# now sincei ts easier to develop games in

i made a diagram awhile ago one sec

XNA still a thing? Haven't looked recently.

@Grenade123 I think I read about that a few years ago, but I don't remember the context

https://i.imgur.com/gTY9wYv.jpg

I mean, I have a book on it from a few years ago but it was when the xbox360 was still the main xbox, before the one

@ping Okay, I'll concede that you're probably right in that C++ isn't a *perfect* superset of C, but as far as most programmers are concerned, it's close enough as to not make a difference

@GingaBomber let me guess, unity? 😢

good when you want to work in small teams

and cant afford the assets to make full use of Unreal

i mean i'm on a 3 person team and unity was just completely awful

VR specifically

Cause no source control?

we dont even use the unreal source control features

unity is just so boilerplate heavy

among other things

well, I worked on unreal with a team