The university I went to for Computer Science started with C and C++, then moved on to Java. Since graduating, I've worked mainly with Java and Javascript (I'm most qualified as a web developer nowadays)

I also know enough of the following to be "dangerous": Lisp, Erlang, Ada, FORTRAN

Oh, and Groovy and Kotlin

Oof Fortran

but those are just Java with nicer syntax

I started with java in highschool. Uni did C/C++, and I'm a c# developer now.

@Revan Kotlin and groovy are far from "Java with nicer syntax"

I know none of those things.

I've looked into C# on occasion, but the companies I've worked for haven't been that big into C#

With some web development as I know JavaScript, just not great

@ping I know there's more to it than that, but they're both supersets of Java

Any valid Java code is also valid Groovy/Kotlin code

C# has only really started to take off recently now that the .net framework is going cross platform

just like C++ is just a superset of C

And Microsoft is making things more open source

C++ isnt a superset of C though

Any valid C code is valid C++ code, ergo C++ is a superset of C

It is

Not at all

Give me one line of code that would compile under C but not under C++

C++ doesn't allow most of the pointer casts involved with idiomatic C

Yes it does. It just has better syntax for those now, so people rarely use the old C pointer casts

No naming in struct initializers

You have to extern "C" all C headers to make sure symbols aren't mangled

I'm not well versed on struct initializers, so I can't speak to those

@Revan it doesn't, under the spec you can only up/downcast pointers

@ping But the compilers still have to support it

Wait, whys the convo on coding now?

Wasnt it electric cars before

Because we are actually qualified to talk about coding

@GingaBomber Because ping and I disagree on the definition of "<Language B> is a superset of <Language A>"

The compilers let you deviate from the specs but that doesn't really count as a language feature

Well I guess, but my expertise is only in C++ and C#

More C# now sincei ts easier to develop games in

i made a diagram awhile ago one sec

XNA still a thing? Haven't looked recently.

@Grenade123 I think I read about that a few years ago, but I don't remember the context

https://i.imgur.com/gTY9wYv.jpg

I mean, I have a book on it from a few years ago but it was when the xbox360 was still the main xbox, before the one

@ping Okay, I'll concede that you're probably right in that C++ isn't a *perfect* superset of C, but as far as most programmers are concerned, it's close enough as to not make a difference

@GingaBomber let me guess, unity? 😢