Message from @CreativeRealms

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2018-01-13 22:34:19 UTC  

The end of that URL almost looks like "Who's on 8", which of course made me think of the "Who's on 1st" skit

2018-01-13 22:44:17 UTC  

lol

2018-01-13 23:56:27 UTC  

I am in the middle of having the exact argument in the recent video about how Trump (allegedly) calling countries shitholes is somehow racist. People are so blinded by emotion that simple facts elude them. Very sad.

2018-01-14 00:00:44 UTC  

Facts are racist. And well, even if he did actually say it, is he wrong?

2018-01-14 00:01:00 UTC  

No he's not wrong.

2018-01-14 00:01:48 UTC  

I ended up calling the guy a racist because he assumed people from those countries were shitholes instead of just the country being a shithole.

2018-01-14 00:01:59 UTC  

And then id ask, are you making the assumption he called them shitholes since they are populated with blacks.

2018-01-14 00:02:13 UTC  

Well directed at the other guy

2018-01-14 00:02:14 UTC  

Already answered lol.

2018-01-14 00:02:25 UTC  

That was basically my argument.

2018-01-14 00:02:50 UTC  

He thought Trump mentioned Norway just because they are white.

2018-01-14 00:03:25 UTC  

Lol and we are the racist ones? He saw color in everything.

2018-01-14 00:03:55 UTC  

He also said the "Muslim ban" was racist because apparently muslims are a race now.

2018-01-14 00:04:10 UTC  

kek

2018-01-14 00:04:36 UTC  

I'm really enjoying it because he keeps doubling down.

2018-01-14 00:04:40 UTC  

I thought it was a joke people like that existed. But the theres flat earthers

2018-01-14 00:05:23 UTC  

I talked to a guy today who thought illegals shouldn't be deported so yeah people like that exist.

2018-01-14 00:07:43 UTC  

No explanation why?

2018-01-14 00:08:12 UTC  

He says we can't send them back becauase they'd be killed.

2018-01-14 00:08:28 UTC  

I mean to argue with someone using moralist arguments. You have to use moralist retorts.

2018-01-14 00:09:01 UTC  

Well at least he cant claim the us is a terrible place.

2018-01-14 00:09:19 UTC  

We weren't talking about the US.

2018-01-14 00:09:53 UTC  

Ask him if Mexico deserves to be a great country or not, a place where people didn't have to flee from.

2018-01-14 00:09:54 UTC  

And yeah you can't fight emotions with logic sadly.

2018-01-14 00:10:18 UTC  

And that if the wall should be built, if anything, for humanitarian reasons.

2018-01-14 00:10:25 UTC  

I said if people leave they lose the incentive to make their home countries better and it becomes an endless loop.

2018-01-14 00:10:52 UTC  

I thought jordan peterson said it best.

2018-01-14 00:10:57 UTC  

And if we keep taking their best/brightest/smartest people, how can we expect those countries to develop?

2018-01-14 00:11:15 UTC  

Sometimes you need emotional arguments to counter someone who uses them

2018-01-14 00:11:16 UTC  

Well that argument doesn't work with illegals @JadenFrostwolf.

2018-01-14 00:11:25 UTC  

Why?

2018-01-14 00:11:32 UTC  

Because you don't vet illegals.

2018-01-14 00:11:38 UTC  

Could be getting anyone.

2018-01-14 00:12:02 UTC  

Oh, the 'smartest' people comment was for legal immigrants.

2018-01-14 00:12:11 UTC  

The 'wall' comment was for illegal ones.

2018-01-14 00:12:11 UTC  

That's more an argument against immigration in general.

2018-01-14 00:12:16 UTC  

Ah ok.

2018-01-14 00:12:21 UTC  

Yeah, it is. lol

2018-01-14 00:15:11 UTC  

Is this person under the impression trump supporters hate legal immigrants?