Message from @CreativeRealms

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2018-01-14 18:49:26 UTC  

As well as the fact that the dude was from Bangladesh

2018-01-14 19:29:33 UTC  

Wish there was a debate channel because then I'd have a better place to post this... Anyways apparently this poem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ (according to someone I just talked to) does not mean that free speech and speaking out against people is important but rather they think it means we should shut down Nazis and not allow them to talk (also to kill them).

2018-01-14 19:31:04 UTC  

lolwut.

2018-01-14 19:31:25 UTC  

OK, then who determines who is a nazi and who is not?

2018-01-14 19:33:53 UTC  

They dodged that question but said in their definition it's the people waving Nazi flags and yelling Nazi chants. But the problem is no one cares what one persons definition of Nazis are. The left blankets the right with "Nazi" and they become fair game.

2018-01-14 19:34:37 UTC  

I remember getting into a similar discussion with someone at the tail end of what happened in Charlottesville.

2018-01-14 19:36:40 UTC  

Yeah I got into that discussion as well. People didn't like accepting the fact that both sides were in the wrong but had the right to speak.

2018-01-14 19:37:31 UTC  

I'm gonna try to pastebin the conversation real quick.

2018-01-14 19:37:57 UTC  

...I don't know how to use this site... lol

2018-01-14 19:39:28 UTC  

OK I got it.

2018-01-14 19:39:46 UTC  

It's not the whole thing, but just the relevant part of it.

2018-01-14 19:40:27 UTC  

He actually said "the majority is always right."

2018-01-14 19:41:21 UTC  

That's mob rule and it's why full democracy is terrible.

2018-01-14 19:41:27 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-01-14 19:41:45 UTC  

I shouldn't have pressed him on that point, but that's where the convo ended because he had to go. lol

2018-01-14 19:42:34 UTC  

I'll post the conversation on my end.

2018-01-14 19:49:08 UTC  

So his argument basically boils down to, "stop using arguments I can't defend against or have no point to counter with!! That's not fair!!"

2018-01-14 19:49:24 UTC  

Pretty much.

2018-01-14 19:51:57 UTC  

Not to mention how they lack self awareness. They are literally calling fo rthe death of people because of their ideology. Seems a bit Nazi-like. 🤔

2018-01-14 19:52:31 UTC  

I know. lol

2018-01-14 19:53:16 UTC  

*Hold on.*

2018-01-14 19:53:44 UTC  

So, Stalin "tried Nazism" and liked it, yet went to war with Germany?

2018-01-14 19:53:59 UTC  

....

2018-01-14 19:54:01 UTC  

OK.

2018-01-14 19:54:10 UTC  

This looks juicy
Can I get a TL;DR?

2018-01-14 19:54:41 UTC  

Anyways apparently this poem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ (according to someone I just talked to) does not mean that free speech and speaking out against people is important but rather they think it means we should shut down Nazis and not allow them to talk (also to kill them). TL;DR

2018-01-14 19:55:20 UTC  

Oh no, did they really pull the whole "that wasn't real communism" argument out?

2018-01-14 19:55:25 UTC  

This is almost painful to read.

2018-01-14 19:55:28 UTC  

Yup

2018-01-14 19:56:18 UTC  

Communists: *autistic screeching*

Translation:
YEAH BUT IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM!
IT WAS NEVER REAL COMMUNISM!
ALL THOSE TIMES WHERE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DIED, IT WASN'T REAL!
MAO ISN'T REAL COMMUNISM, STALIN ISN'T REAL COMMUNISM, LENIN ISN'T REAL COMMUNISM, NOT CUBA NOT LAOS NOT CAMBODIA NOT MONGOLIA NOT VENEZUELA NOT YEMEN NOT NORTH KOREA NOT ALL THE EASTERN BLOC COUNTRIES OR THE SOVIET UNION NATIONS NOT THE BALKANS NOT THE COMMUNIST REPUBLICS OF AFRICA

THE ONLY TYPE OF COMMUNISM THAT IS REAL IS WHEN IT WORKS EXACTLY HOW I WANT IT TO OTHERWISE, IT'S SOMETHING ELSE AND WE HAVE TO KEEP TRYING IT AGAIN UNTIL IT GIVES ME THE RESULT I WANT! REVOLUTION NOW!

2018-01-14 20:09:54 UTC  

well... i guess someone should set up a gofundme for the wall street journal so that they can afford hearing aids. They need them.

2018-01-14 20:10:13 UTC  
2018-01-14 20:10:44 UTC  

rip no pics

2018-01-14 21:05:38 UTC  

Hey, if Tim or any of the admins are paying attention, I can see and type in the patreon-vip room.

2018-01-14 21:05:46 UTC  

I'm not sure it's supposed to be like that.

2018-01-14 22:01:57 UTC  

@Deleted User the fuck's with that prompt on the last link? "I agree" "I don't agree"