Message from @JadenFrostwolf

Discord ID: 403699253597306881


2018-01-18 16:52:46 UTC  

well i know the difference between the weapons mechanicly, i simply dont have an encyclopedic knowledge about guns to the point i can look at 2 very similar looking weapons and tell that one keeps firing with the trigger pulled. i probably should have said "a rifle with a magazine"

2018-01-18 16:58:05 UTC  

@Timcast Discord has an audit log in the server settings, you can see who changed permissions for what and when

2018-01-18 18:32:18 UTC  

Launching a pocast either sunday or monday on my channel

2018-01-18 18:32:29 UTC  

name is likely "The Culture War"

2018-01-18 18:32:32 UTC  

we are getting it sorted now

2018-01-18 18:32:56 UTC  

Me, Emily, and Reactor will be talking about the latest in the culture war once per week. Aiming for sundays at 4pm and getting it up on all platforms as well

2018-01-18 18:33:18 UTC  

Sweet.

2018-01-18 18:36:40 UTC  

Cool beans @Timcast

2018-01-18 18:38:32 UTC  

🎊 🍰

2018-01-18 23:24:09 UTC  

@Timcast in your video today, you forgot to factor in the current 10,000 lifetime views requirement for the YPP. 95% is an exaggerated number. 60-80% is closer to the truth.

2018-01-18 23:54:37 UTC  

how is it exaggerated?

2018-01-18 23:54:42 UTC  

you need 1k subs AND 4k viewer hours

2018-01-18 23:54:48 UTC  

95% of channels dont have 1k subs

2018-01-18 23:55:10 UTC  

And how many of those that do have 4k watch hours?

2018-01-18 23:55:15 UTC  

even less

2018-01-18 23:55:38 UTC  

its harder to quantify viewer hour ranks

2018-01-18 23:55:53 UTC  

there are channels with 2k subs who have less than 4k viewer hours

2018-01-18 23:56:02 UTC  

some channels make amazing videos that are 1 minute long

2018-01-18 23:56:08 UTC  

Oh btw, while you're here Tim, did you hear about the YouTube sponsoring thing? It's basically the equivalent of Twitch Subscriptions for YouTube?

2018-01-18 23:56:21 UTC  

i have not

2018-01-18 23:56:42 UTC  

I'm not sure who/how qualifies for it, but some channels I'm subbed to already have it enabled. You might want to look into it?

2018-01-18 23:57:02 UTC  

When I saw it the first person I thought of was you. lol

2018-01-18 23:57:15 UTC  

i might not have it cuz im with fullscreen

2018-01-18 23:57:28 UTC  

it says only gaming channels righ now

2018-01-18 23:57:37 UTC  

Oh ok.

2018-01-19 00:00:23 UTC  

I should've looked into it a bit more closely, whoops lol, but I think they're looking into non-gaming channels for the future.

2018-01-19 01:20:43 UTC  

@Badg3rman @Timcast I don't think that the number is exagerated, so much as the fact that the point is exagerated. In the channel count, how many of those actually have videos? I'd be concerned that they might be listing channels in the same number as users. For instance, I have two channels, one which I used to post and protect drone footage I was working to sell to a company, and one on which I was testing the waters in video game review. Both would technically be in that 50 million count, but absolutely have no place being monitized as of right now.

What about people who have created channels simply to comment on other people's videos, or used to post family videos? How many of those inflate the count, do you think?

2018-01-19 01:23:04 UTC  

Other than that, it's absolutely believeable that only the top 5% might be monitized. It's believable that only the top 5% of people who post photos on Facebook make livings from their photographs, if only the top 8% would consider themselves actual photographers.

2018-01-19 01:35:37 UTC  

the percentage is exaggerated because the 50 million number is inflated. Not all of those 50 million were eligible for the YPP. The current requirement is 10k lifetime views, which only roughly 11 million channels have.

2018-01-19 01:36:58 UTC  

so we'd have to compare the 2.5 million who MIGHT still be eligible (if they meet the 4,000 hours in 12 months requirement, as well) with these 11 million channels who are eligible for the YPP right now.

2018-01-19 01:37:08 UTC  

Not with the 50 million of total channels on YT.

2018-01-19 01:37:52 UTC  

I suspect something like 90% of channels have like 5 videos or less and were not monetized to begin with.

2018-01-19 01:38:23 UTC  

That, possibly, or if someone puts one viral video up, they could become monitized under the old standard

2018-01-19 01:40:07 UTC  

Nobody knows the real numbers except google and I doubt they are going to want to admit how bad it is.

2018-01-19 01:42:52 UTC  

If they were smart they would just have different tiers of ads so joe bobs widget tighteners could advertise cheap on any channel while Pepsi pays extra to not be associated with Nazi pugs

2018-01-19 01:45:10 UTC  

Actually I’m convinced they already realized that then decided against it because of backroom deals with old media.

2018-01-19 01:47:38 UTC  

Now that google has their money tree its boring to them. They’re more interested in the power to shape opinion and policy IMO.

2018-01-19 01:50:21 UTC  

I'm not certain that's the case.

2018-01-19 01:50:32 UTC  

I think it's potentially heavy-handed as google tends to be with roll-outs like this

2018-01-19 01:51:03 UTC  

I think the viewing hours are probably a fair bit higher than they should be

2018-01-19 01:51:28 UTC  

or perhaps, they should pay particular attention to growing trends, as opposed to a binary system