you can't research your domain?

no

@I AM ERROR, you want them to ambush people with a rape survey?

@I AM ERROR, that would literally never get past IRB and for good reason

i think what he is attempting to say is that the people who did the survey were p-hacking (which i agree)

no

@ping, i see literally 0 evidence of that.

well the vauge questions, for one

you recruit them first, then give them info in what the survey is about and then have them take the survey...

they diddn't break them down

a ton of things were grouped in the same question

that's not really p-hacking

I don't think their questions are overly vague

well you can't know how much breaking them down affects the results because they diddn't do that

you are needlessly throwing away information

@I AM ERROR, i don't mind that methodology, but they still have to be able to leave the survey after finding out what it is

sure

@ping I haven't looked nearly closely enough to know what the effects of their filters were'

but they shouldn't be able to sign up BECAUSE of the topic

@I AM ERROR, agreed, that is a flaw in the survey. It's far from disqualifying, but its a problem

see, i can see flaws without working in the field myself 😉 if it's disqualifying... to me it is in this instance but that depends on the topic really...

@I AM ERROR, I never said you couldn't criticize the study. You can and should do that with all information presented to you

@I AM ERROR, you should be less certain of your critiques

Its hard to say what the effects of that were and its unfair to just disregard the study. Here is the thing. If you issue a survey at a college with 20k people

And get 2k responses

And 20% of them are affirmative

i'm never certain of any of my critiques because i never assume that i have all the needed information

Then you know for sure

that 20% of 2k people

reported sexual violence

('were raped seems strong)

And so you know a minimum rate for the campus (the absurd case in which every victim responded)

maybe i'm blind... is there a list with the exact questions asked and qualifiers if necessary?

idk let me see

3.1.3 and 3.2.2 should be of interest to you

and 6.2 and 6.3 perhaps

afaik there is no posting of the survey

How about they just don't go out and get drunk around a bunch of guys they don't know?
Any personal responsibility there?

Going out and getting drunk is a choice.

With a consequence all of society knows about.

being drunk? puking?