Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-01-22 18:10:28 UTC  

eugh, new Marvel comics

2018-01-22 18:10:34 UTC  

Well I meant back then

2018-01-22 18:10:39 UTC  

😛

2018-01-22 18:10:42 UTC  

Moral games?

2018-01-22 18:10:49 UTC  

Remakes of the violent ones?

2018-01-22 18:11:04 UTC  

Those were cringy. So seeing how they are basically doing it with all these walking sims

2018-01-22 18:11:23 UTC  

what was that game again? "Gone Home"?

2018-01-22 18:12:18 UTC  

about walking through a fictional home and discovering messages about a lesbian pre-adolescent kid that ran away cuz she was unhappy unless she was with her army gf?

2018-01-22 18:12:33 UTC  

Well, problem I had with is wasnt the game itself

2018-01-22 18:12:56 UTC  

I mean I thought the game was just well, okay. Okay 2-5 bucks for one playthrough

2018-01-22 18:13:16 UTC  

It was novel, interesting for a first time. But forgettable in the end

2018-01-22 18:13:28 UTC  

I only had issues with the journalism around it

2018-01-22 18:13:44 UTC  

Like I literally know nobody who has played it

2018-01-22 18:13:55 UTC  

well the issue is that it was poorly made, had no game elements to it, no replay value and no "believable" message

so people just went "what is this crap and why am i paying money for this?"

and disliking it means you don't like it, hence you hate the creators suddenly because hating a product is somehow hating on the maker

making you literally hitler or something 😛

2018-01-22 18:13:56 UTC  

but the journalists would harp on about it

2018-01-22 18:14:34 UTC  

I mean, I back then was real liberal (the real kind) when it came to what can go into games.

2018-01-22 18:14:45 UTC  

Still am actually, not implying I am not that now

2018-01-22 18:15:02 UTC  

i understand you, but sadly the word "liberal"is just tainted now into being a crazy person

2018-01-22 18:16:07 UTC  

Well, we got rape sims, a columbine sim, and even a mass shooting sim. Still was okay with all of them.

2018-01-22 18:16:31 UTC  

So no reason for me to not tolerate Gone Home. I just, didnt like the journalism around it

2018-01-22 18:16:33 UTC  

and the reason journalists harp on about it is because they need media shock

they can't break the news because of twitter tweets etc beating them to it, meaning they can't be the "first to report"

hence they have to draw an audience from somewhere else, which is by actually creating the news by making problems where there are none

then getting that bullshit pointed out, and whining about being harassed for "reporting the news"

2018-01-22 18:16:58 UTC  

Well, problem is that journalism around games is basically obsolete.

2018-01-22 18:17:11 UTC  

We got actual gamers submitting entire playthroughs

2018-01-22 18:17:22 UTC  

Speedrunners.

2018-01-22 18:17:43 UTC  

look at Jim Acosta with trump, he's being rude, interrupts anyone else, won't listen and only makes bait questions, and when trump tells him to F-off, he reports on CNN "boohoo, president is mean to me and censors journalism"

2018-01-22 18:17:48 UTC  

and yes

2018-01-22 18:17:49 UTC  

Hell, the industry had to make embargos to make sure journalists could get their articles out

2018-01-22 18:17:57 UTC  

lets-players took over games journalism

2018-01-22 18:18:21 UTC  

Like Id imagine we wouldnt need game journalism if there were no embargos.

2018-01-22 18:18:23 UTC  

because then you can see the game to its fullest, not just a 5 minute "what we want you to see" bit like No-content Sky

2018-01-22 18:19:06 UTC  

So to play devils advocate

2018-01-22 18:19:19 UTC  

What reason does the game industry have to keep them around?

2018-01-22 18:19:29 UTC  

Mostly indies I reckon

2018-01-22 18:19:40 UTC  

and on top of that, "games journalists" now aren't even gamers, most even tweet about how they hate gaming

And then they have to review a game like that Cup-head fiasco, where they couldn't even beat the tutorial and then write an article about "This game is the new dark souls"

2018-01-22 18:20:07 UTC  

Oh, yeah... How they are all too similar when it comes to writing

2018-01-22 18:20:23 UTC  

Indies don't need games journalists, because they demand money for actual coverage unless they "want" to cover it, which means the game needs publicity beforehand, which if it got pre-existant publicity would mean it doesnn't need the journalists spreading it

2018-01-22 18:20:49 UTC  

Well, that actually makes sense.

2018-01-22 18:21:04 UTC  

Also, helps that I find most of my games through steam reccomendations

2018-01-22 18:21:09 UTC  

And well.. User reviews

2018-01-22 18:21:21 UTC  

yes

2018-01-22 18:21:33 UTC  

steam is a better marketing tool now anyway