Message from @Petelills

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2018-01-22 23:27:59 UTC  

to the point where you can predict and debunk or deconstruct the opposing arguments.

2018-01-22 23:28:02 UTC  

Yeah, sometimes, people like to bounce off what they've heard off of other people simpy because they heard it from a person with whom they agree with most of the time.

2018-01-22 23:28:09 UTC  

Part of the problem is the idea that saying "let me think on that and get back with an answer" is weakness

2018-01-22 23:28:12 UTC  

Yee but I'm also not a politician. No way I'm investing that much time into politics when I have vydia games to play and work to go to

2018-01-22 23:28:14 UTC  

To be frank, I also don't care enough about the subject matter to memorize ever single possible minute detail and counter-point to any potential argument against it, either.

2018-01-22 23:28:36 UTC  

Yeah, I've got other stuff to do.

2018-01-22 23:28:45 UTC  

Greetings people

2018-01-22 23:28:50 UTC  

I always hated reading through articles and PDF files in debates.

2018-01-22 23:28:53 UTC  

Like hentai? You dirty perv

2018-01-22 23:28:55 UTC  

if you're genuinely interested in pursuit of the truth, you would welcome your "opponent" coming back at you with the best thought out response they have

2018-01-22 23:28:55 UTC  

But I could never back down

2018-01-22 23:29:01 UTC  

So I just suffered for my own ego

2018-01-22 23:29:08 UTC  

you dont have to know the minute details, you just have to know what your premises are. From that, you can reason out the rest of your position

2018-01-22 23:29:34 UTC  

Again, saying and doing are two entirely different things.

2018-01-22 23:29:35 UTC  

technically, debates aren't about truth, they are about convincing the audience.

2018-01-22 23:29:52 UTC  

Humans may say one thing, but do another entirely.

2018-01-22 23:29:59 UTC  

It's a good trait to be able to follow up.

2018-01-22 23:30:08 UTC  

that makes them a hipocrite

2018-01-22 23:30:23 UTC  

Plus, many debates will inevitably come down to "who has more studies and statistics behind their argument", rather than who has the best philosophy and reasoning.

2018-01-22 23:30:27 UTC  

Emotions are damaging to intellectual stability, Revolver

2018-01-22 23:30:33 UTC  

Sir Oswald Mosley a great debater and orator

2018-01-22 23:30:55 UTC  

thats why you need to be able to control your emotions

2018-01-22 23:30:56 UTC  

In the moment, you may say or do something you didn't intend on doing

2018-01-22 23:31:01 UTC  

>just control your emotions

2018-01-22 23:31:07 UTC  

Saying and doing.

2018-01-22 23:31:15 UTC  

In the moment, it's not so easy for some people.

2018-01-22 23:31:27 UTC  

YOU NEED DISCIPLINE!

2018-01-22 23:31:46 UTC  

It's a comfortable position to say that while calm. Another entirely while frustrated and not thinking clearly.

2018-01-22 23:31:48 UTC  

And again, debate is a practiced skill, meaning some people will just be naturally better at it than others.

2018-01-22 23:31:48 UTC  

It's a process.

2018-01-22 23:32:08 UTC  

there are ways to control your emotions, I understand that its harder for some people, but you can do it if you follow a methodology like Buddhism for example.

2018-01-22 23:32:13 UTC  

especially when your opponent is actively trying to disrupt your emotional state and obfuscate what they're saying

2018-01-22 23:32:43 UTC  

you have to essentially learn how not to care

2018-01-22 23:32:53 UTC  

I wouldn't practice apathy

2018-01-22 23:33:02 UTC  

I've went down that road

2018-01-22 23:33:05 UTC  

thats not what I mean

2018-01-22 23:33:09 UTC  

Can I jump rope without a rope?

2018-01-22 23:33:42 UTC  

Destiny isn't a good debater, he just takes easy targets

2018-01-22 23:33:46 UTC  

The left lose most debates because it’s all fueled by emotion.

2018-01-22 23:34:04 UTC  

That was the joke, sorry. lol

2018-01-22 23:34:23 UTC  

I don't believe in destiny personally. I just believe in changeable circumstances.