Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-01-23 00:23:00 UTC  

Return of true capitalism

2018-01-23 00:23:07 UTC  

As lf should be

2018-01-23 00:23:24 UTC  

because ultimately, the government is conceptually a destructive force, whilst the market is a creative force, and neither can change their nature.

2018-01-23 00:23:27 UTC  

Capitalism is globalism , communism is far worse ,

2018-01-23 00:23:39 UTC  

globalism is a meaningless term

2018-01-23 00:24:00 UTC  

Centralisation then

2018-01-23 00:24:11 UTC  

On ever fewer corporations

2018-01-23 00:24:16 UTC  

thats socialism

2018-01-23 00:24:17 UTC  

i mean globalism has a real meaning

2018-01-23 00:24:23 UTC  

capitalism is not globalism though

2018-01-23 00:24:31 UTC  

Capitalism is consumerists materialist nihilism , and if u care about people from other countries , especially third world , capitalism exploits them completely for your comfort

2018-01-23 00:24:56 UTC  

Work in some shit pile sweatshop for no money

2018-01-23 00:25:01 UTC  

Endless hours etc

2018-01-23 00:25:04 UTC  

thats not true

2018-01-23 00:25:06 UTC  

Capitalism being something people do

2018-01-23 00:25:10 UTC  

It's not a thing

2018-01-23 00:25:19 UTC  

before the sweatshops, there was starvation

2018-01-23 00:25:19 UTC  

no, wealth disparity causes poor countries to corrupt themselves and let us legally fuck them over

2018-01-23 00:25:31 UTC  

Pakistan ^

2018-01-23 00:25:34 UTC  

it just happens that capitalist countries are the wealthiest and best at negotiating

2018-01-23 00:25:59 UTC  

wealth disparity and corruption existed long before capitalism did

2018-01-23 00:26:03 UTC  

the only reason why third world countries are exploited is because **the citizens don't have rights**

2018-01-23 00:26:24 UTC  

politicians of countries that are poor have an incentive to sell their country to immoral corporate entities

2018-01-23 00:26:37 UTC  

I’m all for capitalism to a degree , I don’t think trans national companies should be able to dominate completely an area or gain to much power because they have a massive impact on politics too.

2018-01-23 00:26:46 UTC  

you could argue that capitalism facilitates that, but any government structure is capable of fucking over another in this way

2018-01-23 00:26:56 UTC  

Agree ping

2018-01-23 00:26:58 UTC  

This isnt some thing that needs to be fixed unless you are a 'for all mankind' type

2018-01-23 00:27:01 UTC  

i suppose thats why socialist countries did so well in surviving corruption over the decades

2018-01-23 00:27:11 UTC  

what with them banning capitalism and all

2018-01-23 00:27:28 UTC  

no it doesn't "just happen" that capitalist countries are the best! don't you understand that its ideas that dictate the fate of a country? Don't you understand that the success is intrinsically linked to the rights of the individual?

2018-01-23 00:27:53 UTC  

because ultimately, a right is a requirement for **life**

2018-01-23 00:28:16 UTC  

and to deprive someone of their rights is to deprive them of their means to live.

2018-01-23 00:28:19 UTC  

i'm with Revolver Ocelot on this

If people are genuinely as free (as we can give them without anarchy) they'll have an incentive to reach the top, they'll work hard, try to be smart

which in turn improves their country

2018-01-23 00:28:23 UTC  

Yes, business as it is today is done by free people who have the right to make their own business or offer their labour to others

2018-01-23 00:28:27 UTC  

I’m not a socialist either mate , honestly I don’t like any modern economic ideologies , there’s lots wrong with all of them , socialism is just communism lite

2018-01-23 00:28:31 UTC  

Freedom is paramount

2018-01-23 00:28:43 UTC  

Liberty over everything

2018-01-23 00:28:47 UTC  

(Civic)

2018-01-23 00:29:05 UTC  

there is no difference between communism and socialism. They both follow the same philosophy.

2018-01-23 00:29:16 UTC  

Singleton , what about when those minorities who think collectively vote you out of your rights for being an evil whitey

2018-01-23 00:29:16 UTC  

they are both morally wrong.