Message from @Dr.Wol
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Feelings being the issue
Cynicism is the tragedy of our age. It is what prevents people from accepting that when given rights, people don't just murder and steal from each other.
People just want trump to be evil to they get cognitive dissonance and serious biases
the market is the ultimate embodiment of objectivism.
its individuals trading value for value.
i'm not saying people don't have the capacity for reason
I'm saying that the overwhelming majority of people will gladly throw reason aside in order to be in a place where they feel like they belong (the pack)
because they are told to.
no, because its SAFE
No it's inate
"no subjective opinions" is an unrealistic goal
thats not the goal of objectivism...
Humans will naturally prefer something more dogmatic and mad if it gets them Into the in group
its asserting that you have a mind and a right to use it.
no they won't! Are you denying that America exists?
People chose to be irresponsible and ignore or wayleigh truth for the animal desire for acceptance
More often than not
Anyways
America was the embodiment of the objectivist vision.
yes and as i said, the majority of people will rather be just a middle person in the group than a shining person that asserts individuality
to a large extent
it wasn't perfect of course
America is just as much subjective as the Soviet Union, the only difference is that they had the luck of siding with Capitalism
notice how I said **was**
and notice how i compared it to the soviet union, i'm talking through all time
you are still only talking about the cold war
i'm talking before that too, the whole point of the civil war was that, where the confederates wanted less rules from the North, less taxes
They asserted themselves as independents, and the Union crushed them for it
in the 19th century, individual rights were paramount, and do you know why? because individual rights were given by god. So when the 20th century comes and atheism rises, the justification for rights, the philosophy, evaporates.
that is where America is today.
thats bullshit, god didn't give people individual rights, the founding fathers did
that is why they are perfectly willing to just throw them away for a few more social programs or whatever.
their justification was god
no it wasn't
in fact it was the opposite
then why do creationists always say "god given rights"?
they wanted a land where anyone could be FREE, regardless of their beliefs, be it spiritual or political
yes I know what they wanted
because creationists are retards that think god created existance
but they couldn't morally justify it through the philosophy of Altruism, so they had to just leave it as god.
If god gave them individual rights, he sure did a nice job of protecting them for the west
I told you, the justification of god has gone. That is why the enlightenment has gone.