Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-01-23 00:56:47 UTC  

yes

2018-01-23 00:56:48 UTC  

is it immoral?

2018-01-23 00:57:00 UTC  

then you are an objectivist.

2018-01-23 00:57:06 UTC  

i don't consider morals to exist

2018-01-23 00:57:11 UTC  

but they do.

2018-01-23 00:57:30 UTC  

morals define ethics which defines what we consider as good and evil.

2018-01-23 00:57:32 UTC  

they don't, morals is just a word used by people to define the line they consider fine, and bad

2018-01-23 00:57:46 UTC  

they are subjective, I agree.

2018-01-23 00:57:54 UTC  

but they do exist.

2018-01-23 00:57:56 UTC  

what you consider good and evil doesn't apply to everyone else

2018-01-23 00:58:00 UTC  

and they are important

2018-01-23 00:58:11 UTC  

I consider religion to be evil, in any form

2018-01-23 00:58:25 UTC  

but what **they** consider good and evil makes all the difference in the world

2018-01-23 00:58:43 UTC  

it does not, what societies consider good and evil changes over time

2018-01-23 00:59:16 UTC  

The problem is that Kant undermined the enlightenment, and the validity of reason, with the explicit purpose of justifying faith.

2018-01-23 00:59:31 UTC  

this paved the way for Christianity.

2018-01-23 00:59:51 UTC  

and then, later, Marx and Nietzsche.

2018-01-23 00:59:52 UTC  

yes, and thats what the left is doing today

2018-01-23 00:59:55 UTC  

yes

2018-01-23 01:00:01 UTC  

now you understand.

2018-01-23 01:00:05 UTC  

i always did

2018-01-23 01:00:07 UTC  

but its not just the left

2018-01-23 01:00:19 UTC  

the right considers altruism to be moral as well.

2018-01-23 01:00:24 UTC  

I agree with the end, just not your ideals of an "enligthenment"

2018-01-23 01:00:56 UTC  

they consider capitalism as a necessary evil at best, and still consider selfishness as immoral.

2018-01-23 01:01:00 UTC  

The way i see it, modern society just replaced God with Socialism

2018-01-23 01:01:07 UTC  

yes

2018-01-23 01:01:14 UTC  

because they are equally valid

2018-01-23 01:01:18 UTC  

they are not

2018-01-23 01:01:26 UTC  

they're both lies told to people to control them

2018-01-23 01:01:35 UTC  

because there is no place for reason in society.

2018-01-23 01:01:59 UTC  

we ultimately have just given up ourselves to faith somewhere along the line.

2018-01-23 01:02:16 UTC  

reason gimps control

If a leader can't have people removed on a whim, but instead be faced with "but theres no reason for it" they don't have power

2018-01-23 01:02:25 UTC  

right

2018-01-23 01:02:33 UTC  

its just a power play

2018-01-23 01:03:03 UTC  

this is why progressives only value "power", they consider facts to only be what the person in power declares to be true

2018-01-23 01:03:14 UTC  

yes, but it is only sanctioned because the intellectual elite fundamentally believe in altruism

2018-01-23 01:03:28 UTC  

If i say the sky is blue, but a person in power says its green, to post-moderninsts the sky is green

2018-01-23 01:03:30 UTC  

today, they just take it on faith that we have no free will.

2018-01-23 01:03:34 UTC  

no

2018-01-23 01:03:41 UTC  

the sky is a social construct