there is a distinct difference

Just ask communism

I'm not trying to make robots

but you are trying to imply that peopel are selfish for wanting to perpetuate the success of the human race

yes, because they are!

because they don't want peopel relying on them and they want to teach them to do thing for themselves

that makes no sense!

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no they aren't at all

do you value the human race?

why would giving someone freedom over their own life be selfish?

if that were the case, cavemen would have died out a long time ago, had the man who invented fire never shared it

selfishness is about value

if you value something, you are selfish for pursuing it.

if he was the only one that knew how to do it, and he died, then the rest of them would have too because they didn't know how to do it

I value the human race's continued existence. Because I know that if my life doesn't leave some kind of something behind positive, I'll know that I've lived a nigh pointless existence. Doesn't mean I can't do anything for myself. It just means that I _want_ to sacrifice for the good of humankind.

no, because it benefits him to have other people know how to do it, because then his children will have fire.

I _want_ to do this.

I was never taught that.

to give a person the chance to get off the dole and make something of themselves is not selfish in the slightest

yes, i value my childrens ability to not be a slave to another persons whims, boy am i a selfish bastard 😛

I weighed the world, and formulated opinions accordingly.

want is the most selfish of emotions.

The equation obviously isn't that simple in my eyes, others can value you and thus suicide is not at all altruistic

ehhh...

I would argue lust is the most selfish emotion

Not all selfishness is inherently bad all the time

lust too

It depends on the situation.

i thought Pride was the strongest emotion

no it isnt

and that lust and all teh other sins came from that

Want is a selfish thing sure, but lust can turn a want into a need that can override ones senses

yes, if it is irrational.

to lust for something is almost akin to want, that's why the two usually come up in the same conversation

Where as want can be sometimes selfless

I can want for the world to be a happy place

that isnt exactly very selfish as wanting something only for me

it's not wrong nor selfish to want to help people make something of themselves and to better their life

where as if i lust for traps long enough

I could become gay o.o