so how in the hell is having people dependent on you for no reason other than they are lazy and are getting free money a selfless act

that yoru kids get welfare too

when you sit there and struggle to pay your bills and your rent and for your food and such, how is that selfless

it's not, that's being selfish

its selfish to pay your bills?

O.o

right, i'm off to bed, cuz this is just an endless cycle right now

you are being altruistic, the people dependent on you are ultimately looting from you.

that's them sucking you dry of money that coudl go into your childrens' mouths as food, that can cover them as clothing, that can shelter them as a house

Hello comrade I have a free helicopter ride for you

CONGRATULATIONS! YOU'VE WON!

looting isn't altruistic, but it is a consequence of altruism.

it's not altruistic, you can'r choosing to help them, you are being forced to give them your money while taking from your children's quality of life, as well as your own

*aren't

Welfare is a fucked and abused system, for sure.

this is just become a cycle of Revolver saying people are selfless for wanting to make people dependent on them

and wanting to make the human race better is a selfish act

and everyone else disagreeing with him

and you are taxing people that work and barely bring anytihng in to feed a lazy woman who has like 6 kids

y'all need to read some Ayn Rand. Then, you will understand my position.

who won't go out and work but would rather have children to get more welfare and get a bigger baby bonus

no, your position is just blabbering a bad position

Welfare is likely one portion of the breakdown of the nuclear family, which leads to poverty, which leads to crime.

Ayn Rands Objectivism is like Communism

Looks good on paper, but human nature will never make it work

the only thing forcing people to pay into a welfare system does, is it leaves a whole generation of people worse off.

Abortions for some, small americian flags for others

I'm going to have to say that I've seen nothing so far to convince me. Just because it makes sense to you, that doesn't somehow mean that it _has_ to make sense for someone else.

but objectivism is designed for human nature

#kex2020

Go away Commisar Bob dole 😛

obviously not lol

i see your reference! 😛

I promise a 100% policy on all laws.

I'm objective, yeah. I'm just objective about the human race. I deem it to be more important than the one of me.

And I'm completely comfortable with that.

We must go forward, not backward, upward, not downward, and always twirlling TWIRLLING TOWARDS FREEDOM

=p

Jane Goodall talked about altrusim too with her group of Chimps that she was with, and what she was reffering to was the acts they preformed willingly to help another person in their group achieve something and then move on, such as helping a young chim make an instrument to get ants, and then left it at that.

I read twerking at first.

That works too

but you are a human, and the human race is just a compound group of humans, so you are basically saying that humans matter so humanity matters so therefore I don't matter.

human individuals matter

therefore i matter