Message from @Dr.Wol
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**who?**
the people you claim i'm insulting instead of arguing with
look man, you raised objection with me saying those children who went emo have lost stability in their life and thats why they're acting like that, they'll either fix it by age 25 or have some mental issues
and now you're just confusing yourself because of my responses to your objections
that group isn't even well defined since you have been wording everything like a strawman instead of a classification
ah the ol' strawman strawman
so me refering to "everyone that spontaneously changes like that during adolescent years" is a strawman is it?
got it
"like that"
again
subjective
that's not a proper classification
I’m not sure it’s possible to classify those people.
exactly
subjective? we're talking about seeminly well adjusted people that suddenly turned into near-skinheads, with metal shoved through every orifice and claim they're a Quad-gendered octopus
are we digging into lives the people of the article specifically or people you would subjectively put into the same boat of crazies
in which case
elaborate it
you know, the new "right wing boogeyman"
or else your opinions (on that group) are useless
so the point of this is that you're confused because i made a statement about a clearly depicted group of people, mentioned them and explained how they are generaly resembled
and you find that too broad, and therefore its a strawman
no, the "those people have no structure and control over life, have no meaning to their existance, and have no personality, so they define themselves by some pre-writen identity"
and "nah its just attention seeking, these are people who hate themselves for not being unique enough, so they just go with whats considered awful and rebelious"
is the strawman
they are 😮
having your opinion on a group is fine
but it doesn't make any sense if the group is loosely defined
so you're saying that "rebelious youth" are not defined just that way?
there i branded it for you
Rebelious Youth
Sponteneous Young Freaks
Attention Seekers
Misguided Children
lul you just pulled a cathy newman
lmao, he did not
you said the group i defined, was loosely defined
I wish gifs were postable in this one, popcorn.gif
so, rebelious youth
They are trying to be unique by acting the way they do so expecting us to define them as something specific is near impossible. Most we can do is group them by the tendencies most of them have.
Younglings that act like stereotypes
i don't think having a rebellious personality means they have no personality and define themselves by a pre-written identity
unless thats not what you said
except thats how you worded it
i didn't say they have a rebellious personality
i said they define themselves by the current status of "rebel" which in the normie society is a freak with pink-hair and metal all over cuz thats the most common opposite of a normal man/woman in a suit, proper natural hair and a clean face
it's a paradox in that, by acting as such they are defining a "new wave" of beauty where colloquially-defined beauty itself doesnt matter, and then go on to post glamorous pics of themselves thinking they are the new colloquially defined beauty?
which is because they want to belong somewhere, but don't feel like they have enough individuality, so they just join a "brand identity" because then they are part of something