Regressive left.

It's just for convenience.

Fair enough

Yeah pretty much.

We all know who’s being referred to.

Even if they're not what the left is suppose to be, they are the current face of it in it's current form, unfortunately.

I think using the term 'liberal' is even more of a misnomer.

I mean, the Antifa crowd ain’t liberal

Definitely not. lol

With their whole “liberals get the bullet too” slogan

depends by what political template you go by,

If you go by purely left-right, then its acceptable

if you go by left-right with a Y-axis of Authoritarian/Liberal

then saying "the left" is wrong because its the "authoritarian" branch that imposes this, not the liberal left (and right-wing respectively)

its just corrupted definitions

like how "Liberal" is now just the term for Authoritarian Leftist

Newspeak

whilst the word Liberal means freedom

Leftist?

Too many leftists consider themselves liberal.

yes

I mean like Antifa becoming fascists even though their name implies opposing them

but thats like saying freedom of speech in Europe

its only free if you say what the people in charge agrees with

More like “the right to not be offended”.

Yeah.

I mean, one thing I noticed was how European laws seem to be written with the naive idea that people will not exploit laws with vague or subjective descriptions.

something people forget is that somehow these people who have the right to not be offended, can still offend others

Making use of hate speech laws to make something illegal to criticise

well the naivety comes from this illusion that the west is the epicenter of "the good guys"

and since the governments in europe are "the good guys" they'll be good and wise enough to supposedly "not" exploit these vague definitions of laws

and since they're the good guys that care for everyone good, the only people that can disagree (or criticise) are bad people, since good people would love that they care for everyone, hence only people who criticise are bad, hence should be punished cuz they're bad

I mean, Id like to know how long these laws were in place.

And which countries dont have these laws.

about the same time ago as when it became appearant to a bigger and growing group of people that the great establishment no longer has the naitive peoples interests in mind

In the US, I dont see anyone getting arrested for sperging out an opinion.

Poland doesn't have that yet

at least as far as i know

Hmm, I wonder

The US... Would you say it has the closest to the truest definition of FoS?

Probably

Thing is, whatmakes having it true is kinda subjective

Like what, FoS in the US means the govt cant stop you

well theres a youtube clip of Poland police charging and beating up an antifa group, and they reject those syrian refugees, so they're atleast not part of this clique of governments with anti-criticism laws

How about private institutions like say, social media

Then it’s not so free.