and identitarian politics won't help with these leaders because they're in most cases the white politicians

Yeah, I wasn't trying to blame everything solely on the migrants. If anything, they're the symptom.

don't get me wrong, i will never accuse anyone here, i don't like the "Ha! gotcha i win the argument" debating thing

i rather talk, discuss things, explore viewpoints and find solutions with people

Yeah, I've been in that kind of argument, especially the kind where you're talking about a subject, they give you their sources, and because you're in the middle of actually *reading* their sources they try to declare victory. lol

Because you didn't respond "fast enough."

well that sort of arguing is what youtubes bloodsports is all about basically

Make argument A, refute it with Response B
Counter response B with argument C
Defeat argument C with response D

declare the other person is a cuck
get called a snowflake

end the debate with 0 progress, cuz the people who believe Person 1 support person 1 and hate person 2, and the same goes for person 2's supporters

Now where I'd say the Alt-Right is wrong, is that I don't see any restraint from them. If their movement, for instance, was for the preservation of culture, simply keeping Beer Steins & Polka german, Escargot French, and Fish'n'chips british, These cultures need protecting, absolutely. But I think there's a point that people who don't share a skin color ARE absolutely capable of adopting cultural values. If not for the idea of an Ethnostate, I'd likely support the Alt-right.

you hit the nail right on the head Ryecast

polka is not german

The Alt-Right are like First-wave feminists with third wave feminist objectives.

looking past the point where the problem is solved, looking for power, as opposed to solutions.

and that's where they lose me.

well they basically want the revolutionary end goal

Replace the current ruling class with "our" ruling class, who will then fix the problems in society

Basically.

Falko, my apologies.

Keep Czech Polka.

german polka would be the white supremacist thing to do, appropriate it 😛

antifa is german though 😒

ironic.

antifa is larpers chasing ghosts

antifa is the reason hitler got voted into power because they gave him enough victim points by physically attacking him and his followers. THAT is ironic.

and if you see parallels to the current day alt-right... that is just in your head.

wasn't it the communist revolutionaries?

and what was their name...?

i'm assuming you're gonna say Antifa

antifaschistische aktion, or antifa for short

thats where the current day antifa got their name and logo from

but wasn't the antifa started AFTER the nazi's came to power?

or maybe i'm mixing it up with Mussolini coming to power

no, shortly before in 1932

but regardless, your original point still stands and i agree, the increasing aggression of the current Antifa movements is most likely going to cause history to repeat itself and sweep factions like alt-right into more influence and power

i would not go so far to agree that history will repeat itself, but only because ww2 happened.

Nuclear weapon just went off outside of japan

lol

well i meant antifa giving legitimacy to response by fascist-like groups

a nuke you say?

oh, my mistake

it was an evangelion

no clue what that is, i'm not familiar with american churches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nafii87gdzs

antifa, blm and so on are doing their best to make the alt-right relevant, yes.