I should have used another example 😩

It's alright lol, there aren't very many anti-gun examples to choose from.

I mean for logic vs emotion

Oh, I don't know much about that.

I do know that an emotional response is also a part of our survival instinct.

Logically i'm okay with guns for leveling the playing field
Emotionally, I want a gun so i can kill anyone i've crossed to the point where i'd fear they'll want to retaliate against me
for Pre-venge

cuz thats what Emotions really boil down to

One last thing about guns... the idea that there is „common sense gun laws“ that improve the situation in the US is complete bullshit. Everything you could do will only serve to arm criminals.

"me me me"

Or civil war...

common sense gun laws are just an appeal to emotion,

Yeah... the emotion of „think of the children“ (which usually gets a „why? What are you hiding?“ from me)

its common sense in the middle east to rape girls if they don't dress "modestly" enough,
So if you go with "Just use common sense" then cultures will clash

Well, it is funny people speak of "common sense" gun laws as if they are a self-explanatory thing, yet when asked they can't name a single provision.

its because there isn't any such provisions, "Common sense" is subjective,

Right-wingers think its common sense to work for your share
Left-wingers think its common sense that as long as you work (at anything) you deserve as much as anyone that works an equal amount of time

Christians think its common sense to pray to god
Atheists think its common sense to be a nice guy that finishes last

You'd be surprised how many people don't know that automatic weapons are already banned in the US, for the most part.

thats because many don't know what "semi-automatic" means, they just go with that meme of a feminist reading somethign that has the word "man" in teh sentence and get triggered

Common sense? Weapons are made for killing, killing is illegal so weapons should be illegal. So repeal the second, and ignore the fact that criminals will not give up any guns and will be further armed by a thriving black market.

i agree! back to swords and maces!

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but yes you're absolutely right

And again, with the "well just call the police" argument, I would normally ask what if they don't show up on time. With the Parkland shooting I now get to ask, "what if the police don't do anything?"

but thats my take on pretty much every single "leftist" argument nowadays, its literally like they took a valid Issue, and cut out the last 50% of it

Emotion says „guns bad“, logic says „no guns worse because bo guns not happening“

People being offended is bad, but it breeds strength and you can't "never offend" anyone

Gun violence can quickly escalate, but if you make guns illegal, criminals can still use them so you'd disarm citizens

Censorship can help against stupid ideas, but censorship can also prevent good ideas from being spread

Child labor is a bad thing, but the alternative is that they have to find other more terrible means to survive in those countries (prostitution etc)

You always have to think of the consequences and side effects more than of what you are actually trying to achieve... and thats not really intuitive when you are guided by emotion.

You can‘t not offend.

Slavery is the worst thing ever, but maybe you shouldn't be buying that Apple phone, and starbucks latte used with african beans

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Even just doing/saying nothing can be offensive.

Just be sure to stay out of the UK when you say something on the internet... they jail people for wrongthink.

well, they cant get me if i'm anonymous! 😛

You really think you are anonymous on the internet?

to be fair, i used to think NO i'm not

but secret services thinking that everything is russia now despite no evidence etc, has led me to believe i can get away with it

simply because modern "civil protection" is getting incompetent

like uhm

in holland here

last month, the ING bank website got DDossed for a day

I don't think the actually believe that it's Russia. I think they're just using that as a scapegoat.