i doubt even china would support russia much if they launched nukes first.

we might see something like a blow for blow thing as completely whiping you and your enemy out while other peices are on the board doesent really seem like the best plan

russia wont launch nukes till they are invaded, even then it might not be armagedon

you know, i take it back, russia might use nukes for scorched earth, you are right

they have a habit of doing that

I think as soon as one is launched the game is over.
"The only winning move is to not play in the first place."

so WW3 would be just like every other war. Conventional weaponry, fighting over land

but what would be the goal of such a war?

What happens when one side is on the verge of losing, though? If things did not escalate to nukes up until that point.

thing is if you threaten to take territory that has an icbm on it, they will use it and not lose it, or if you take an important peice of land

nukes might come out then, but like i said, what would be the reason for such a war?

reason isint the reason

all wars usually come down to land someone wants that someone else has

nah not really

thats kind of a liberalist myth

war actually tends to be more of a pride or fear thing

really? you believe these leaders to be that stupid?

WW1 lasted so long cause no one wanted to back out once it started

"neighber is getting dangerous, better kill them while im still stronger" "im so powerful i have right to anything i see"

emotions are not stupid, they are aside of inteligence

Yes

caeser was a genius

"im so powerful i have right to anything i see" <- this is a war land someone wants

over land*

its not about the land though, its about the claim

back in the day people would create monuments specificly stating the size of their empire and challanging anyone to rival it

those people dident get empires like that by being fools

but a claim like that isn't starting a war.

ill say were consiterably mild compared to then

Even in cases where it was over land, what do they want the land for?

i mean napolian only wanted to one up alexander, and he got away with trying it twice colapsing frances economy twice

even hitler was only interested in europe because it was a matter of pride to reclaim the sutendatenland

_fucking butchered that language_

i don't really care about why someone wants land. At the end of the day, its because someone wants land.

some times its pride, sometimes its resources.

so the question is, what land does russia want and why?

it seems like they want the old USSR back

which i highly doubt would lead to a real WW3

most times its pride, its usually resources when the opposing faction is absolutely so weak they are consitered another species to the conquirer or its soviet russia

or the mongols

eh the mongols it was a matter that once the khan united the tribes the only way to keep them together was to send them to war