Message from @>Cytos, de lieve goede synth

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2018-04-14 19:44:28 UTC  

more on the bullyhunters

2018-04-14 19:44:44 UTC  

meeki reports that steelseries has been removed from the site

2018-04-14 19:44:56 UTC  

however, going to the site atm gives a 505 error

2018-04-14 20:08:34 UTC  

this bully hunters thing is reminding me of some initiative anita sarkeesian was associated with. Something about a "non-profit" she was in related to women in game that happened to endorse a book written by one of the people who was involved with the non-profit or something. The funds going to this "non-profit", if i remember, seemed to possibly be disappearing.

2018-04-14 20:38:57 UTC  

Steelseries backed down?

2018-04-14 20:41:18 UTC  

In regards to the limited run of headsets: 100% proceeds of the special edition version are going towards charity. We decided to support this campaign because we believe that harassment of any kind sucks.

But this was not stage-managed by us as some sort of viral campaign. We didn’t come up with the idea. No money was exchanged whatsoever. We provided headsets for charity and support. (1/2)
We did so because we believe in an equal, friendly, and competitive virtual playing field for everyone.

We still do.

Be kind to each other. ❤️ (2/2) - this was a comment from Steelseries' twitter account

2018-04-14 20:42:31 UTC  

All a company has to do is make headsets and not make social commentary.

2018-04-14 20:44:20 UTC  

I'm currently wearing an Arctis 3, have for the past couple of years, because they're the best headsets I've tried (and I've tried several). I really really REALLY don't want them to go full SJW...

2018-04-14 20:47:57 UTC  

Also, that IS damn scary to think that intelligence agencies are basing military action on social media...

2018-04-14 20:55:47 UTC  

And again, to answer Tim's question in today's video, I absolutely disagree with trump on attacking Syria. As mentioned before, the reasoning he's using seems like facebook repost bullshit. Assad deserves the opportunity to make a case about incidents that occur in his country. Statements such as Trump's, calling him a 'Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it' - (Trump's Twitter 2018) is a reckless emotional call to action, and commits SO MANY SJW-esque infractions on common sense.

2018-04-14 21:28:38 UTC  

i'm not sure if that "we have analyzed photos on twitter"-proof is better or worse than just making sh*t up.

2018-04-14 22:07:26 UTC  

It's worse.

2018-04-14 22:08:13 UTC  

You can't legitimately claim that foreign countries can influence people using Social media and then use social media as a bastion of truth when it matters

2018-04-14 22:09:28 UTC  

I mean, would you rather we go to war on our politician's terms, or on the terms of Isis, and other Islamists? that's the question I see.

2018-04-14 22:11:39 UTC  

It makes FAR MORE sense for the gas attacks to be caused by rebel forces

2018-04-14 22:13:22 UTC  

And without proof being provided that this was the fault of the Assad regime, I have a hard time believing that Assad would utilize a weapon he's been forbidden to use by the national stage, on his own people, in the midst of a war that he's winning.

2018-04-14 22:14:02 UTC  

Considering investigations into past uses have pointed towards rebel parties using them

2018-04-14 22:28:04 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-04-14 22:35:23 UTC  

there have been multiple gas attacks since the entire thing started though, not just the one recently. most where blamed on the regime.. tho from the evidence ive seen they just assume its them as they are the only people in the area that they concieve of that can make this shit

2018-04-14 22:36:15 UTC  

there has been no evidence i have seen that places the blame definitevly at the feet of anyone

2018-04-14 22:36:50 UTC  

its also pretty dificult, as you can make mustard gas with stuff you buy at the supermarket

2018-04-14 22:37:05 UTC  

obviously not recommending you do that, im just saying its pretty simple to do

2018-04-14 22:37:47 UTC  

ergo, even if you found a fully intact mustard gas cannister that has not gone of yet, if you have god like luck

2018-04-14 22:38:30 UTC  

the parts are probably going to have come from china, unles they make some retard mistake by forgetting to anon-ize it, you wont be able to trace it to anyone

2018-04-14 22:40:23 UTC  

proof would require a discovery of where the stuff is made, and then figure out who it is that works there

2018-04-14 22:40:52 UTC  

which seems unlikely, as there is a war going on atm

2018-04-14 22:41:33 UTC  

you can send investigators, but all they can tell you is what happened, not by who

2018-04-14 22:42:02 UTC  

and they are probably not setting off nerve gas cannisters where they are making the stuff

2018-04-14 22:45:26 UTC  

Topic Bullyhunters: SteelSeries just issued a statement.

2018-04-14 22:46:06 UTC  

"BullyHunters pitched us with a simple idea - let’s work together to fight online harassment. And because we believe that’s a noble cause, we supported it.

It’s now clear that we didn’t do a good job in understanding exactly what we were supporting. And we’re sorry for that.

The way BullyHunters represented the gaming community was wrong and disingenuous. Most gamers don’t experience harassment, and more importantly, 99%+ of gamers don’t do the harassing. We’re well aware of the many faults with BullyHunters. We hear you guys, and we agree.

To clear a few things up: BullyHunters was not a viral campaign stage-managed by us. We did not hire a marketing agency to create it. We didn’t have anything to do with its execution, content or messaging. And more importantly, we would never take advantage of an issue like bullying to sell hardware. They asked us to supply some headsets, support the call for positive change, and we did.

Although we still believe in a world where harassment isn’t tolerated, it’s clear to us that BullyHunters is hurting, not helping, that cause. On Friday, we ended our support and partnership with the organization.
We apologize to those who support our brand and expect more due diligence in vetting out campaigns and partnerships we associate ourselves with." - Steelseries official Facebook.

2018-04-14 22:49:10 UTC  

hmm

2018-04-14 22:49:16 UTC  

not surprised

2018-04-14 22:50:00 UTC  

if you want to start a campaign about something you can prolly get in touch with steelseries to make some custom headsets for you np, all they have to do is change the plastic a bit

2018-04-14 22:50:24 UTC  

this does leave open something though

2018-04-14 22:50:34 UTC  

who is the mastermind behind it all?

2018-04-14 22:50:49 UTC  

follow the money?

2018-04-14 22:56:57 UTC  

A Whois lookup certainly wasn't helpful

2018-04-14 22:57:06 UTC  

Dunno what I expected, there.

2018-04-14 23:08:04 UTC  

Apparently , Vertagear, a company that makes racing-style chairs, issued a statement on their affiliation with Bully Hunters.

2018-04-14 23:08:24 UTC  

"Last month, we were approached with a campaign to bring visibility to the seriousness of cyberbullying: Bully Hunters. At the time, we felt it was a worthy cause for us to engage with as we believe the issue is a pertinent one that runs alongside the expanse of technology, online gaming, and the study of mental health.

While we understand that much of what is construed as “bullying” by many is rather just playful banter not unlike that of what you may see in competitive environments in the offline world, what we perceive to be online bullying manifests itself in a much more direct, vitriolic, threatening and harmful manner. Although online games are equipped with tools to shield gamers from dialogue, the damage is often done before these tools are used for the most mentally vulnerable, whether they are male or female. It was our hope to shed more light on this matter, and to work towards an environment that would cater to our fellow gamers in distraught.

When we were approached with the background and goals of Bully Hunters, we put our faith in the cause and the organizers. However, the information that we received before the start of the campaign not only contradicted the execution of it, but we discovered after the fact that it was sorely lacking. Our biggest mistake was not thoroughly vetting the details of the campaign to ensure that the execution would be up to the proper standards expected, and we apologize for that and the horrendous results of this event.