Message from @>Cytos, de lieve goede synth

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2018-04-19 17:11:49 UTC  

but if they didn't moderate, then they wouldn't fall into the publisher category and would be protected from liability in a different way

2018-04-19 17:13:06 UTC  

i'm wondering if you can make a website that might still fall under the other category, and if that would protect against the sex traffickers bill

2018-04-19 17:13:45 UTC  

it seems like there is potential to capitalize on the growing number of people getting banned everywhere for one mistake or one accusation.

2018-04-19 17:14:13 UTC  

without worry of there being a law that someone can try shut you down with

2018-04-19 17:15:04 UTC  

I see several possibilities

2018-04-19 17:15:18 UTC  

the first one is going private

2018-04-19 17:15:53 UTC  

on closed communities it's hard to get reported

2018-04-19 17:16:06 UTC  

even if you do, it's hard for the complain to be public

2018-04-19 17:16:12 UTC  

because they will have no access

2018-04-19 17:16:13 UTC  

Simply provide the service, and give the users said moderation tools.

2018-04-19 17:16:44 UTC  

the other possibility I see is

2018-04-19 17:16:52 UTC  

you show the reporter to a moderator

2018-04-19 17:19:48 UTC  

peer to peer encyprion intercommunication with peer to peer cloud based decentralized storage of all relevant data that the person storing it cant even access cause its encrypted

2018-04-19 17:20:06 UTC  

downside: no one will own the platform, and anything goes

2018-04-19 17:20:22 UTC  

even stuff like child porn would not be able to be deleted

2018-04-19 17:20:52 UTC  

cause you can not detect who is holding it, and you can not detect what you are holding

2018-04-19 17:21:32 UTC  

on the plus side, it would be a completely free zone, where you could do anything you wanted to do on the internet and get away with it anonymously, unles you a dummy and dox urself

2018-04-19 17:21:37 UTC  

you can't

2018-04-19 17:21:43 UTC  

you will have witch hunts

2018-04-19 17:22:02 UTC  

look at what people think of TOR

2018-04-19 17:22:31 UTC  

what people think would not matter in my example

2018-04-19 17:22:39 UTC  

there is nothing to witch hunt

2018-04-19 17:22:46 UTC  

ofc there is 😏

2018-04-19 17:22:59 UTC  

TOR is exactly what you described

2018-04-19 17:23:08 UTC  

unless you want to go after everyone that sends and receive encrypted data

2018-04-19 17:23:19 UTC  

it became a place where you mostly only go for illegal stuff

2018-04-19 17:23:27 UTC  

that's what happened

2018-04-19 17:23:37 UTC  

the FBI tracks everyone on TOR that they can

2018-04-19 17:23:50 UTC  

you cant detect what is being sent or received though

2018-04-19 17:24:03 UTC  

they control most exit nodes

2018-04-19 17:26:14 UTC  

wouldnt you be able to avoid all that using a vpn though? like what i just said but hidden behind a peer to peer encrypted vpn as well

2018-04-19 17:27:50 UTC  

assuming the vpn doesn't sell you over

2018-04-19 17:28:11 UTC  

which in case of the FBI, they have the power to force the VPN company to "sell" you over

2018-04-19 17:28:14 UTC  

they have to comply

2018-04-19 17:28:46 UTC  

no i mean a decentralized user hosted vpn

2018-04-19 17:29:18 UTC  

this the same FBI that has 0 evidence for collusion but still spends millions trying to find it,

Meanwhile believing that drought in california is russian bots? 😛

2018-04-19 17:34:02 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth there is a problem with that. it's not that no one holds the data, it's that several people own the data. But in the case if things like cp or other things that are illegal to simple have on the computer, than it's technically anyone with the software may get arrested for having cp on their hard drive

2018-04-19 17:34:42 UTC  

but they may not. innocent till proven guilty remember