Message from @0x90909090

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2018-04-19 13:18:53 UTC  

It can be, but it can be made to be specific.

2018-04-19 13:35:40 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth @JadenFrostwolf for the record, there is a slight difference in how lootboxes work and how random card packs work, usually. and that is namely the ability to trade with someone else for what you want.

2018-04-19 13:36:35 UTC  

also, with things you physically own, you have the ability to get back or even make a profit, on cards you get if you wish to sell them.

2018-04-19 13:37:27 UTC  

and i believe you could use the ability get back lost money without spending more money as a way to make a dividing line between gambling and not gambling.

2018-04-19 13:37:48 UTC  

the difference between gambling and a risky investment, really.

2018-04-19 14:18:05 UTC  

Yeah, I myself was also referring also to electronic cards. I even name-dropped 'Hearthstone', which has no form of trade, that's all.

2018-04-19 14:22:34 UTC  

The „Back End“ of card packs is completely different from lootboxes also...

2018-04-19 14:25:13 UTC  

With the packs they release x amount of cards and y amount are „special“. If you bought all card packs you are guaranteed to get all y amount of „special“ cards... with lootboxes you are not guaranteed anything no matter how many you buy.

2018-04-19 14:31:50 UTC  

they are closer to true random though

2018-04-19 14:33:34 UTC  

Loot boxes? They are a lot of things, but random is not one of them.

2018-04-19 14:34:13 UTC  

assume a 10% crit rate, if it is assured you get a crit every 10 hits, it's not true random

2018-04-19 14:35:08 UTC  

this is that they did in LoL for example, they removed randomness to assure closer results to the balance

2018-04-19 14:35:19 UTC  

but assuring results ISN'T random

2018-04-19 14:35:52 UTC  

you can have a 10% chance to get something, open 100 boxes, and not get it. Welcome to true random 🎉

2018-04-19 16:12:33 UTC  

It would appear that patreon has now changed their guidelines and is policing speech of comedians not even on their platform, why anyone would continue to build a business on this is beyond me
https://youtu.be/ROAPJJejXPE

2018-04-19 16:16:09 UTC  

* I mean what they complained about wasn't on their platform, it was on twitter / Facebook

2018-04-19 16:16:27 UTC  

That seems to be the new trend: platforms policing their user's actions even on other platforms that are not their own.

2018-04-19 16:19:21 UTC  

It's getting crazy, haven't liked patreon since that rubin report interview, he just didn't seem trustworthy there...

2018-04-19 16:19:45 UTC  

It's just going to create an ecosystem where if you do anything wrong anywhere, you'll get banned everywhere.

2018-04-19 16:20:02 UTC  

And in this case, 'doing anything wrong' is going to include wrongthink.

2018-04-19 16:23:02 UTC  

Yeah, seems even banks are starting to do that

2018-04-19 16:23:29 UTC  

Which is real dangerous.

2018-04-19 16:26:27 UTC  

Yeah I've only heard them doing it for companies because of something the founder allegedly did but still a bad trend

2018-04-19 16:26:58 UTC  

Can Andrew Anglin still own a bank account?

2018-04-19 16:27:11 UTC  

I know he's essentially banned from the internet, but what about the real world?

2018-04-19 16:29:04 UTC  

Yeah no idea, they might claim its because of "security" problems rather than his politics

2018-04-19 16:30:05 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-04-19 16:32:47 UTC  

tfw multi billion dollar companies don't know how to properly moderate

2018-04-19 16:32:57 UTC  

pre-emptive banning is how you lose users

2018-04-19 16:33:03 UTC  

lose trust

2018-04-19 16:33:20 UTC  

and cause constant drama shitstorms

2018-04-19 16:34:04 UTC  

i think what you wanted to say is "go bankrupt"

2018-04-19 16:52:03 UTC  

I'm trying to figure out if you make a forum in which you do not moderate any content anymore. I don't think there is any legal protection. that stupid sex works/sex trafficking law makes that impossible. At least without a very good lawyer that could try to weasel out of any charges by making it the responsibility of 3rd parties to notify them, with proof, of legit cases of sex trafficking/sex worker. I don't know if there is a bit of subjective wiggle room to make it the states responsibility to notify the content provider of illegal content on a case by case basis.

2018-04-19 16:55:07 UTC  

its impossible to comply

2018-04-19 16:55:34 UTC  

well known example to illustrate my case

2018-04-19 16:56:08 UTC  

"hello im starting a pizza resaurant, anyone want to buy my Cheese Pizza?"

2018-04-19 16:56:15 UTC  

impossible to comply? or not comply?

2018-04-19 16:56:53 UTC  

the gist is that you can use code words that can mean the illigal activities you want to sell

2018-04-19 16:57:02 UTC  

in other words, even if youd moderate every single post

2018-04-19 16:57:09 UTC  

it still would not be enough

2018-04-19 16:59:07 UTC  

i'm more curious about a way so that even if someone said "hey, want to by a kid sex slave from me?" (sorry discord, guess you gotta shut this down) with legit intent to sell a kid sex slave, the feds couldn't do anything without proof that user is an actual trafficker, which would require knowing who the guy is, and basically having enough of a case against the user that it would have been able to make the content hoster remove the stuff anyway for that user