Message from @>Cytos, de lieve goede synth

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2018-04-19 17:26:14 UTC  

wouldnt you be able to avoid all that using a vpn though? like what i just said but hidden behind a peer to peer encrypted vpn as well

2018-04-19 17:27:50 UTC  

assuming the vpn doesn't sell you over

2018-04-19 17:28:11 UTC  

which in case of the FBI, they have the power to force the VPN company to "sell" you over

2018-04-19 17:28:14 UTC  

they have to comply

2018-04-19 17:28:46 UTC  

no i mean a decentralized user hosted vpn

2018-04-19 17:29:18 UTC  

this the same FBI that has 0 evidence for collusion but still spends millions trying to find it,

Meanwhile believing that drought in california is russian bots? 😛

2018-04-19 17:34:02 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth there is a problem with that. it's not that no one holds the data, it's that several people own the data. But in the case if things like cp or other things that are illegal to simple have on the computer, than it's technically anyone with the software may get arrested for having cp on their hard drive

2018-04-19 17:34:42 UTC  

but they may not. innocent till proven guilty remember

2018-04-19 17:35:04 UTC  

gotta be able to prove you have illegal data, which is impossible if its encrypted and you cant be expected to know the password

2018-04-19 17:35:13 UTC  

every person is guilty in the eyes of the government, they just haven't found the evidence yet

2018-04-19 17:36:09 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth possession of child porn is illegal. If it's on your hard drive, you are in possession of cp. Even if it's not your cp. That's the problem.

2018-04-19 17:36:20 UTC  

but it might not be CP

2018-04-19 17:36:27 UTC  

it could be anything

2018-04-19 17:38:27 UTC  

You don't understand. If the police search any computer with that software, unless the software does not save full copies of files on the machine, if they find cp, that the software put there, the owner of that machine can get charged with possession.

2018-04-19 17:38:42 UTC  

I'm not saying the police will know what machine has it

2018-04-19 17:40:06 UTC  

I'm saying it could be randomly found on a machine by someone. For example, an IT person fixing your hard drive might come across it using computer forensics programs and report it to the police.

2018-04-19 17:40:19 UTC  

This is a potental problem.

2018-04-19 17:40:53 UTC  

but you arent storing the non decrypted data

2018-04-19 17:41:21 UTC  

anything anyone would ever be able to find is the encrypted data, which they cant decypher without a key, that the ownder of the computer doesnt have

2018-04-19 17:42:52 UTC  

They can, but things designed to break encryption could. Such as, idk, someone trying to decypte some files that got affected by some ransomware. So the local IT is running some utilies on the computer and oops, suddenly it says it found some cp it just decypted.

2018-04-19 17:43:02 UTC  

My point is, it is a risk.

2018-04-19 17:43:15 UTC  

you cant just decrypt data

2018-04-19 17:43:42 UTC  

thats the entire thing with encryption, why its so powerful

2018-04-19 17:43:45 UTC  

You can, it's just not easy. Ad sometimes the time required can make it impossible.

2018-04-19 17:44:16 UTC  

You also don't just magically encrypt data. There are different types, and algorithms.

2018-04-19 17:44:38 UTC  

And this assumes governments don't just make that software illegal because of this issue.

2018-04-19 17:45:13 UTC  

It may very well be the best route, a distributed system. But you can't ignore the these potential risks.

2018-04-19 17:45:52 UTC  

ofc there are, but a person would not care if he gets conviced of having child porn for example on a encrypted segment on his computer even he didnt have access too, if the encryption has a 20+ character passcode and uses any of the proven encryption methods, cause hed already have died 300 years ago

2018-04-19 17:58:31 UTC  

i wouldn't feel comfortable that it would take 300 years. Too many variables and this isn't like block-chain where you are secured through redundancy of other computers connected to the network. this is a local machine with whatever encryption was maybe top of the line at the time of the code being added and or last updated, don't by a problem that will most likely have to be open source.

2018-04-19 17:59:29 UTC  

plus i don't like the idea of physically hosting content i morally object to on my computer. or even the possibility of it being there against my will, and without my explicit knowledge, and not being able to remove it at will, just from my machine.

2018-04-19 19:38:42 UTC  
2018-04-19 19:39:59 UTC  

if you know and like the old sydicate games... get that one.

2018-04-19 22:31:40 UTC  

it looks like a bladerunner and xcom mix

2018-04-19 23:45:09 UTC  

@Timcast You may find this video interesting RE: YouTube demonetization and/or censorship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwW7NeBwkfw

2018-04-19 23:45:38 UTC  

Specifically around the 6:00 mark

2018-04-20 07:41:31 UTC  

If you want, got some great tbs games this year. Phoenix Point and Phantom Doctrine are coming out this year if I recall correctly.

2018-04-20 08:39:40 UTC  

BATTLETECH is releasing in 4 days.

2018-04-20 08:49:54 UTC  

who's battletech?