Properly, yeah you're right

louis CK

Right, him.

Yeah, that's him

I don't think he actually did anything wrong in that case.

I mean, he *did* ask.

huh.. apparently its world press freedom day .... happy world press freedom day Tim

thats a scary rise in that "journalists imprisoned" chart at the bottom http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-43961380

it's not really surprising, though

hmm it probably doesnt mean anything.. and is just an odd coincidence.. but the rise in imprisoned journalists is inversely proportional to the major stock markets - you can see it clearly when there was a big dip in 2012, the imprisoned journalist count went up

although that fails in the last 2 years... 😛

I don't see why it wouldn't be directly linked at face value

Who drives the people that drive the stock value that drives the money that drives the law that drives the media (and repeat)

yeah I suppose.... as they say... follow the money

is it me or is calling someone "right-wing" to "defame" them a weird concept... considering we live in capitalist societies where the majority actually vote right wing

I think that's the focus of a video Tim is doing, everything is so extremely left that even Tim thinks he is center, to put it in perspective I think Tim is left AF, which he is, he is a liberal, but he isn't drastically left, nor retarded left

Anything that isn't SJW is an insult in media, so to them Tim is a conservative alt right

ok but just to be clear, saying he is left... and saying he is liberal, are 2 different things

Which makes me satan himself lol

like you can be right and liberal... and you can be left and authoritarian

It shouldn't though, left and right is where peeps physically sit in parliament, Tim would sit on the left of the room and argue with me on the right

the founders of the US were right wing liberals

left and right are just opinions on what would be the best system to run a society economically

they wanted individual rights - and the rights to own property

the other axis is Authoritarian - Liberal, which is a system on how to best run a society socially

@wacka I grew up in a part of the country where it was totally normalised to think of "the right" as a thing that doesn't exist except in backwards, incredibly low intelligence places where everyone has a thick accent.

Nobody was contrarian to this in the classroom and nobody really brought it up as a concept.

If that's all you're exposed to and there's no contrarian opinion or really anything, it's totally normal to think that if you've never been exposed to it.

were you raised in eurasia?

I wasn't even exposed to THAT,

To me, Left was caring about society, and Right was caring about the economy

boy was i wrongly informed

I'm close enough to chicago where I'm impacted by all of their bullshit laws, if that tells you anything.

😬 🔫

Yeah, from what I recall of my education, there wasn't any deep philosophical discussions or attempts at explaining anything relating to political parties or anything.

"This is the system. This is how the system works. Here's a very condensed, ultra-simplified version of American history."

So from what I remember it was less "the left cares about society and the right cares about the economy" and more "the left cares about society, the left also cares about the economy, and we're not going to say it outright but we can imply that because we, the left, are the good guys, then.. *they're* the bad guys."

yeah, so basically "left = good, right = bad" mentality

It wasn't until I was in high school with a very unorthodox teacher (at times) that I was even introduced to the concept that it's not automatically a good thing that a) everyone thinks the same way or b) that everyone is on the left.

Also, coincidentally, my first experience with one of those political spectrum tests.

Of which, I, and pretty much everyone in the class ended up left/lib, roughly 2/3rds closer to the middle than the outer edge.

There's a reason why this conditioning is so damn difficult to break I imagine.

It's the same shit that happens to kids born into ultra religious families.