the problem isint people who want to lie and change the throughts of the world to their own narritive. the problem is people who want the honest truth when all they know is dominated by 2nd hand and 3rd hand sources

has the media ever really told the truth? probably only when the truth was more valuible than fiction

i mean, i have never really trusted the media

People's trust in the media, especially Legacy media is dropping fast since we have the internet

You can cross-reference different sources with the click of a button

the internet is no more honest than the legacy media, it just has more honest people in it

Honest means, I do not lose anything from stating the truth.

how do you know what the truth is that anyone tells you?

even people who trust the current highly bias left leaning sites, given how, with each passing day, the list of stuff you can do to get kicked out of "the left" is growing, more and more will lose that trust as the remaining people get more and more fickle.

the internet probably also has more people looking to exploit and manipulate the opinions of others for some grand design than legacy media

Id say people value personal image too much

legacy media seems to be mostly in it for the money

"Downvotes and unfriending"

For-profit tend to do that, AG

well of course they do

at the end of the day

the money in legacy media will become more and more what political interests what the less the mass's attention and money it has

it's a business to them

Indeed

its business to the internet too

It's sad that Twitter has become a place where you have to walk on eggshells to avoid getting blocked.

I didn't even have to do anything to get hit with a blocklist

blocked?

I don't fear blocked

I fear being banned

you should try to get as blocked as much as you posibly can, the deeper into the echo chamber your opponents get the less they know

Once someone blocks you, the conversation ends. Where do you go from there?

war or segrigation

I don't block unless someone's earned the total asshole achievement

how does one earn that

Constantly spin and twist your words, try emotional manipulation/blackmail, strawmanning, +++

Well, yeah, in the case of harassment I'd eventually mute or block.

Over time you just get sick and tired of the same regurgitated arguments

The same insults thrown in in subtle ways

if you want to change minds, dont fight soldiers, talk to civilians

Indeed. Talk 101

A group itself, no matter how big or small, is going to be difficult to change. The individuals inside those groups however..

people are more willing to listen to you if they think they know you and like you before they realize you have a ideological opinion that opposes their own

Hence why I talk with people outside of politics

And made some of my best friends that way, despite not agreeing much

come at someone airing their laundry on twitter with an objection they will see you a stranger that pulled on them a blade in the night