Message from @Nine

Discord ID: 449076349051600907


2018-05-24 05:03:14 UTC  

Twitter blocking is a privilege to all

2018-05-24 05:03:18 UTC  

okay, so he can block people from entering an open public form, so long as its done with his own private resources, not the government/

2018-05-24 05:03:42 UTC  

You're basing this around the argument that his twitter is an open public forum.

2018-05-24 05:03:59 UTC  

You have yet to establish this, other than pointing at an activist ruling.

2018-05-24 05:04:50 UTC  

Twitter is not a public forum

2018-05-24 05:04:56 UTC  

twitter is a private company

2018-05-24 05:05:26 UTC  

twitter can delete Trump account, or block ppl on his behalf

2018-05-24 05:05:32 UTC  

@Ivanfr this ruling doesn't do anything to change that. it only dictates what the government can do, not twitter

2018-05-24 05:05:32 UTC  

they can do anything they want

2018-05-24 05:05:54 UTC  

Donald Trump's twitter is not the government.

2018-05-24 05:06:37 UTC  

This is your statement, and i am asking at what point does his private actions cross a line and become government actions because of their nature or intent

2018-05-24 05:06:39 UTC  

Twitter can sell the company to China

2018-05-24 05:06:40 UTC  

xD

2018-05-24 05:06:41 UTC  

Your argument HINGES on proving that Twitter is an open public forum.

2018-05-24 05:07:08 UTC  

and your counter argument hinges on trump not always being president while in office

2018-05-24 05:07:35 UTC  

so, can trump order a private security firm, with his own money, to block people from going to a public forum.

2018-05-24 05:07:44 UTC  

not necessarily twitter

2018-05-24 05:07:50 UTC  

just any open public forum

2018-05-24 05:08:11 UTC  

You just conceded that my argument DOESN'T hinge on that.

2018-05-24 05:08:23 UTC  

Besides

2018-05-24 05:09:05 UTC  

Question: Does free speech require being able to tie your speech as a response to the tweet you are tweeting about in this case?

2018-05-24 05:09:15 UTC  

^ ^ ^ ^ bingo.

2018-05-24 05:09:30 UTC  

why do you keep dodging?

2018-05-24 05:09:38 UTC  

@Grenade123 I dont think even the secret service can block u from being on an open forum

2018-05-24 05:09:51 UTC  

unless they arrest u

2018-05-24 05:10:11 UTC  

No one can legally unless you pose a threat.

2018-05-24 05:10:38 UTC  

the secret service could not legally do it. But a private security contractor might, depending on where the open forum actually is.

2018-05-24 05:10:43 UTC  

He isn't blocking people from going to twitter though

2018-05-24 05:10:53 UTC  

@Grenade123 then u can take legal action against them

2018-05-24 05:11:55 UTC  

or just refuse

2018-05-24 05:12:05 UTC  

and maybe they will assault you

2018-05-24 05:12:08 UTC  

but then u sue them

2018-05-24 05:12:19 UTC  

can you? like i said, it depends on where the open forum is. It could be hosted on private land that just usually lets people speak their mind. but perhaps you get banned from the premise. If its not the government banning you, but the people who own it, then you have no legal case of being allowed on the premises

2018-05-24 05:12:38 UTC  

then its not a public forum

2018-05-24 05:12:43 UTC  

Then its not an open public forum

2018-05-24 05:13:12 UTC  

"A "traditional", or "open, public forum" is a place with a long tradition of freedom of expression, such as a public park or a street corner. The government can normally impose only content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions on speech in a public forum. Restrictions on speech in a public forum that are based on content will be struck down, unless the government can show the restriction is necessary to further a compelling governmental interest."

no where in there does it say it has to be public land to count as a public forum.

2018-05-24 05:13:28 UTC  

a private college campus comes to mind

2018-05-24 05:13:43 UTC  

Bad example lol

2018-05-24 05:13:45 UTC  

How is a Twitter Account a place with a 'long tradition of freedom of expression'?

2018-05-24 05:13:47 UTC  

obviously private land is not a open public forum

2018-05-24 05:14:00 UTC  

I can ban anyone from my house